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Title: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: jkgla on Tuesday 30 January 18 22:11 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the birth details of THELMA JOAN LANE (1931 - 2008)
I believe that she was born in Warman, Saskatewan, on 3 June 1931, and I would like to find her birth parents or any further details about her.  She married Robert Norman Hull, probably around 1960

Many thanks in advance

Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 31 January 18 01:37 GMT (UK)
Canadian BMDs fall under provincial jurisdiction and their availability is subject to strict privacy laws. This is what is currently available....

http://genealogy.ehealthsask.ca/vsgs_srch.aspx

I was wondering if you had tried to contact her children mentioned in her obit as suggested in your earlier thread?

PB
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: jkgla on Wednesday 31 January 18 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Polarbear,  yes - I am in contact with one son who is uninterested - the other son died some years ago.  I can try to get Thelma Joan’s birth certificate.  I am frankly curious because the uninterested son and I have a strong DNA match and I’d like to know where from - I’ve traced the Hulls back to 17th century England with no success, so the link must be elsewhere.

Your help much appreciated,  Joan
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 31 January 18 18:48 GMT (UK)
Apologies.....posted in wrong thread so deleted.

PB
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 01 February 18 08:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Polarbear,  yes - I am in contact with one son who is uninterested - the other son died some years ago.  I can try to get Thelma Joan’s birth certificate.  I am frankly curious because the uninterested son and I have a strong DNA match and I’d like to know where from - I’ve traced the Hulls back to 17th century England with no success, so the link must be elsewhere.
Your help much appreciated,  Joan

If you've a 'strong DNA match' to the son does that not mean he has/had some sort of interest in tracing his family?
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: jkgla on Thursday 01 February 18 20:44 GMT (UK)
The son is only interested in his ethnicity.  I've traced his Hull line back to 17th century England and offered him the research, but he's not bothered.  I'm simply curious as the match with him is my 'best' DNA match and is probably at great or great great grandparent level - so should be findable!

I would like to apologise to PolarBear & Eileen Wilson, and maybe others, for repeating a question after they had been so helpful - but couldn't find the old thread! Now thread found and answers carefully recorded.

I can't see any way of locating info on 'Thelma Joan Lane' - despite having her date of birth from ship's Passenger records.  The DNA link may, of course, be via the paternal grandparents, Andrew Leggatt and Margaret Dodds, so I'll chase them up as well - at least they will be outwith privacy rules and I may be able to find them on census info, for example.

Many thanks, everyone.

Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: polarbear on Friday 02 February 18 02:08 GMT (UK)
Some possible clues for you to consider....

1953 voters list for Regina Sask:

Richard C Lane Chairman L. G. B.
Miss Thelma J Lane Student
Miss Mary Lane Spinster

Same place 1963 has Richard C Lane Retired Just him in household

Same street 1945 has Richard C Civil Servant and Mrs Richard C No others in the household...possible children wouldn't be old enough to vote.

Possibly Richard (as R C) with parents in Warman Sask in 1921....

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003223266

R C and parents b. Ontario so avenues to explore there.

Anyway, food for thought.
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: manawakian on Friday 02 February 18 13:29 GMT (UK)
Richard Cameron Lane born 17 Dec 1891

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-6HST-9G?i=430&wc=QZ3B-GMY%3A1584203503%2C1584207612%2C1584220801%3Fcc%3D1784212&cc=1784212
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: jkgla on Friday 02 February 18 21:19 GMT (UK)
Many thanks to you both - a lead - 2 leads - at last!  Looks Scottish...
Ironically, we live in Scotland, but have little Scottish blood! 

Many thanks again

Joan
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: polarbear on Friday 02 February 18 21:49 GMT (UK)
Do you have access to Ancestry trees?

There is a tree on Ancestry that has a wife for Richard Cameron Lane ......an Ethel Bromby. There is no source for this particular fact but other parts of the tree appear to have the correct siblings for Richard. 2 unnamed daughters are also shown. As it turns out, the Bromby family are living a few doors away from the Lanes in the 1921 census.....same page as I posted earlier.

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003223266

We need to be careful with online trees, but if you have access you may be able to contact the owner.

You can access Canadian censuses for free through this website (Library and Archives Canada)....

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

Also some for free through this one.....

http://automatedgenealogy.com

The Lanes can be found in Ontario before they ended up in Saskatchewan.

It will be great if they turn out to be yours.

PB
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: jkgla on Saturday 03 February 18 09:25 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for this, PolarBear. Yes, I do have access to Ancestry trees - I’ve actually added the Hull/Lane family as a ‘mirror tree’ to see if that draws anything out of the ‘woodwork’.  There’s also always the possibility that there’s a ‘non-parental event’ somewhere, which would complicate matters!

I really appreciate your help as I haven’t needed to navigate Canadian records before.

Joan
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP uui
Post by: jkgla on Saturday 03 February 18 23:16 GMT (UK)
I think I’m getting somewhere..  Could you possibly check the birth details for
RICHARD EDMUND LANE, BORN ONTARIO 3 Oct 1856. 
His father is probably William Lane. Not on Familysearch (though his will is!)

I have traced various other lines back to the UK - but still no match..

Many thanks. Joan
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: cosmac on Sunday 04 February 18 01:50 GMT (UK)
https://books.google.ca/books?id=XnRorHM6ICQC&pg=PT29&lpg=PT29&dq=%22mary+irving%22+and+%22richard+lane%22&source=bl&ots=BeMgOo7XeE&sig=Ple4eCKqQOT5qngdQf4yg9mdwOA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcz5uNkovZAhUW6WMKHZS6B4oQ6AEIOzAI#v=onepage&q=%22mary%20irving%22%20and%20%22richard%20lane%22&f=false

Richard and wife Mary Irving are both buried in Woodlawn Saskatoon.  She died 1923 he in 1928. 
Birth registrations in Ontario were not mandatory until 1869 and even then many were not registered.
Title: Re: BIRTH RECORD LOOKUP
Post by: polarbear on Sunday 04 February 18 04:21 GMT (UK)
A possibility for the 1871 census....

http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/jpg/4396610_00574.jpg

PB