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Title: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: Peter Cornwell on Thursday 01 February 18 08:00 GMT (UK)
Deciphering the will of Richard CORNELL of Balsham, Cambs, made in 1544 I have come across reference to an acre of 'Ballymony' along with various other crops. Has anyone met with this term before ? Is it an archaic term for something else ?
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: Girl Guide on Thursday 01 February 18 08:54 GMT (UK)
Never heard of it!

How about giving Cambridge University a challenge and contact the below department and ask them?

Agronomy Centre
Cambridge University Farm, 219B Huntingdon Road, Cambridge CB3 0DL

Tel: +44 1223 651 599
Fax: +44 1223 335447

Unfortunately there is no website for this department so it's either phone or snail mail.

Meaning of agronomy - The science of farming, including the study of soil, plants, and animals, and ways to improve the production of food on farms: Agronomy encompasses work in many areas including plant genetics, crop rotation, irrigation, and food production.

I shall be interested to see if they rise to the challenge.  ::) ::)
 
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 February 18 09:34 GMT (UK)
What sprang to my mind was the town in Northern Ireland, Ballymoney?
Certainly the Bally/Balley/Balla prefix is Celtic - being found in many Irish and Manx place names. There are 600 Balla's in the Isle of Man alone ;D
It means "homestead".

So, could it be the name of a farm?
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: Peter Cornwell on Thursday 01 February 18 09:41 GMT (UK)
Girl Guide,

Thanks for the suggestion. Well worth a try particularly as they are stones throw from my home.

KGarrad

Yes, that place came up in my Google search. Renowned for its peat apparently.   

Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 01 February 18 09:56 GMT (UK)
Even more renowned as being the home of the Dunlop family of TT racers ;D
Joey Dunlop, 26 TT wins
Robert Dunlop, Joey's brother
Robert's 2 sons, William and Michael are also motorcycle racers.

Douglas, Isle of Man, where I live is twinned with Ballymoney ;D ;D
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 01 February 18 10:17 GMT (UK)
Just wondering if it could be anything to do with barley?
Is it clearly written, or is there any chance of mistranscription?
Would you be able to post an image, just a snippet with some surrounding text?
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: Skoosh on Thursday 01 February 18 10:25 GMT (UK)
What Book Box said, a crop variety, corn, flax or spuds?

Skoosh.
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: ainslie on Thursday 01 February 18 10:52 GMT (UK)
Could the word in the will, before Ballymoney, be 'at' rather than 'of'?
A
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: arthurk on Thursday 01 February 18 13:45 GMT (UK)
'Baldmoney' is a north-country word for either a gentian or the plant Meum athamanticum (see OED and Wright's Dialect Dictionary).

I've no idea if either would be grown as a crop, and as the dictionaries suggest a rather localised usage, I doubt the word would be found in a Cambridgeshire will unless the testator came from the north.

EDIT:
See next post for another possibility, which I think is more likely.
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: arthurk on Thursday 01 February 18 13:53 GMT (UK)
Another suggestion, which I think is far more likely than 'baldmoney':

How about a mistranscription or alternative spelling of bullimong (also found as bulmong, bully-mung etc)? It's an East Anglian word for a mixed crop of peas, oats and vetches - sources as above. The OED also gives it as a word for buckwheat.
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: Bookbox on Thursday 01 February 18 13:58 GMT (UK)
bully-mung

Seems very likely, good find. That's why I asked if we could see the image.
Title: Re: What is/was Ballymony ?
Post by: Peter Cornwell on Monday 05 March 18 07:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks to arthurk and Bookbox my question has been answered. I too believed that it was 'Ballimony' (Gentian) based upon what was (apparently) written but much prefer the suggestion of 'Bullimong' given the locality. Thank you all for your most helpful input.