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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: gralorn on Friday 02 February 18 16:00 GMT (UK)
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I had a great uncle Bertram Allard who lived in Port Alberni and then Victoria whose first wife Florence Mackenzie Ross bore him a daughter Sheila Eileen Ross who was born 25 July 1915 and died 15 January 1994. His wife sadly died with senile dementia and was the reason that they had divorced. He was kept up to date with her condition and informed eventually of her death by their daughter Sheila. That is all that I know about Sheila Eileen Ross who was 79 when she passed away. I can only but presume that she remained in Victoria and lived there until her death. Is anyone able to tell me anything at all about Sheila's life in BC.
Thank you in anticipation.
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Listed on FIND A GRAVE
Royal Oak Burial Park Cemetery Victoria, Capital Regional District, British Columbia, Canada.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/148881156
Sandra
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Death Certificate - Sheila lived at 7 - 1120 Richardson Street. Victoria BC. The informant on the death certificate was Phylllis Gallo. 2492 Beacon Avenue, Sidney. BC. Note she was never married. Sadly, noone seemed to have any details of her :'(
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/b29e202e-7d3b-412f-96dc-7c5535c59f77
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/45755422-bfaa-47f6-9999-652e97ed7c73
Sandra
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Thanks very much for that Sandra, I once again presume that she was a single woman who did not marry and have children. Just wonder what she did, work, social, etc. Strange not to know anything about her.
Thanks again
Graham
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Canada Voters List 1965 - BA (R C N) and Mrs SA (laboratory technician) both of Colville Road. Victoria. BC.
Sandra
This record is questionable now - after unravelling further information.
This couple are living people so I have edited to use initials only.
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That is interesting, but got me stumped, or perhaps Bernard is Sheilas son! There is no known marriage to date, so perhaps base born and given the name Allard. Are there no ages shown? All most interesting though. Intriqued to say the least.
Thanks Sandra, of is it Sherlock?
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The 1921 BC census of Canada has the family all as Allard.
Bertram Ruby Allard 33
Florence Matheogre Allard 32
Sheila Aileen Allard 6
Annie Ross 68
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That is interesting, but got me stumped, or perhaps Bernard is Sheilas son! There is no known marriage to date, so perhaps base born and given the name Allard. Are there no ages shown? All most interesting though. Intriqued to say the least.
Thanks Sandra, of is it Sherlock?
Looking at later Canada Voters Lists - this looks like same surname but a different couple.
Sandra
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The 1921 BC census of Canada has the family all as Allard.
Bertram Ruby Allard 33
Florence Matheogre Allard 32
Sheila Aileen Allard 6
Annie Ross 68
The name on this record was changed to Bertram Percy Allard ? (6/9/2014)
Sandra
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Does this look more like him ??? Bertram Percy Allard born Maidstone Kent 3 May 1888 - was first married to Florence McKenzie Ross and then Mary nee Kennedy Allard.
Bertram passed away 27 November 1977 Victoria. Mary was the informant on his death certificate.
Royal Oak Crematorium - Saanich. British Columbia - 29 November 1977
Station Agent CPR Railways.
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/81ecfa22-9c35-4754-8605-586b08e3bb05
Sandra
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Bertram P Allard (agent) - Canada Voters List 1940 - Comox; Alberni, British Columbia and Mrs Bertram P Allard.
Canada Voters List 1945 - Bertram Percy Allard - Station Agent - Duncan, Nanimo BC and Mrs Bertram Allard.
Canada Voters List 1957 - Bertram P Allard - retired. 234 Vancouver Street. Victoria.
Canada Voters List 1963/65 - Bertram P Allard (retired)
and Mary - Apt A22 Humboldt Street Victoria.
Canada Voters List 1968 - Apt A22 - Bertram Allard (retired) Bertram Allard (retired) Mary Allard.
Double entry for Bertram - could that be an error ???
On the marriage cert for Bertram and Florence - there was a note on the bottom that said the marriage was dissolved 12 December 1960.
On January 6 th 1961 at Victoria BC - Florence name changed to Florence Mackenzie Ross.
Sandra
On the death cert of Florence Mackenzie Ross - 3 November 1971 - The informant was S Allard, 971 Arundel Drive, Victoria, BC.
Royal Oak Crematorium.
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/a889104a-6b5e-4eec-b25d-9d1ecf3ea190
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Mary Allard passed away Royal Jubilee Hospital Victoria - 13 May 1995 - Mary had been a librarian.
Father George Kennedy of Scotland and Alice Sargeant of Sotland. Mary born 4 March 1907 - passed away aged 88 years. Informant Marion Eadie of Ottawa Ontario (niece) - Royal Oak Crematorium - Victoria. Separated - Bertram P Allard - listed.
death Certificate -
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/27b30d67-6d60-4004-8fa7-e6fd3cc38018
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/b5f60aaf-2e95-458c-93cd-3b5c357f4dc0
Sandra
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Hmmm back to square one with Sheila if that's the correct Bertram Percy Allard :-\
Sandra
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It is always best to link your previous threads so that we can see what searches were made and what was found, this saves us duplicating and wasting our time searching what has already been search.
previous threads
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=485811.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=265718.0
Sandra
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Yes I know all about him, its his daughter Sheila that I know nothing about sadly.
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You may know all about Bertram and the family but we didn't, we don't have psychic powers - it is always best to link previous posts on the same family subject - that way we know what you already have and what has been searched so far, that way we don't waste our time searching and duplicating what has already been found.
Sandra
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Ouch! Sorry for any inconvenience, but "What Did She Do" did ask the question if anyone may be able to help me put some flesh on the bones of Sheila Eileen Ross Allard and her life as I had no knowledge of her[u[ life at all. The fact that her living with another Allard at the same address and being a laboratory assistant was brilliant, and if that could be followed up would certainly help, as it is her that I am interested in.
Sorry once again.
Graham
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Going to use abbreviations because the 1965 voters list referred to much earlier in the thread showing Mrs S A with a BA - R C N might be nothing to do with your Sheila. (This looks to be a much younger couple - no ages are given on the voters lists)
That particular BA is still described as a serviceman on the 1972 Voters List - 854 Hotham Street Esquimalt Saanich.
The same couple appear on Canadian Phone and Address Directories, 1995-2002 - 744 Av Canterbury Ottawa Ontario.
The same couple (with a daughter) are still living - as I found a death notice of a friend of there's where they sent condolences last November.
There is an entry for a Miss Sheila Allard (waitress) on Canada Voters List 1958 - 74 Anthony Road. York Ontario.
Seems Allard was not an uncommon surname.
Sandra
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Sounds like it is not Sheila Eileen Ross Allard after all. Not to worry. Yes Allard is quite common in Canada due to its French origin I believe. Not that I can get that far back with my tree, I only get to 1773 in Suffolk, Uk. Thanks for all your assistance though. Really was much appreciated.
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Sheila Eileen R Allard age 24 travelled out to Canada on the American Farmer on 15th October 1939.
She is listed as having no occupation and single.
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In Aug 1957 Sheila and Florence were to have travelled from Port Alberni to London ,but their names were crossed out. Sheila is down as a stenographer and has a DOB of 25th July 1915.Intended stay in the UK was 1 month.
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That really is interesting thank you very much indeed. Much appreciated indeed. So she obviously lived in Port Alberni for most if not all her life.
Thanks again.