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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: vaison on Saturday 03 February 18 15:58 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
Does anyone have access to baptism records for Our Lady of Victories in Easington?
If so, I would be very grateful for a look-up for my g.grandfather's baptism.
His name was Abel Ellison. He was born in Monkwearmouth in 1868, but I believe he was baptised in Easington.
Father's name : Alfred Ellison
Mother's name : Jane Rogers
Many thanks
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It may help someone look if you give us a time frame.
Boo
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Yes, sorry.
I have updated the original post.
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Durham Record Office have registers for this parish
http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/article/11113?SearchType=Param&Variations=N&Keywords=our+lady+of+victories&Parish=Easington+Village+Our+Lady+of+Victories+and+St.+Thomas+Roman+Catholic+Church&OrderBy=NAME&ItemID=598408
Though the LDS seem to have the registers filmed (but not yet digitised), they do not appear to have been indexed
Durham Records Online don't have transcriptions for this parish
Free Reg don't have them either
I would think the DRO would be your best bet, if no one else comes up with anything
Boo
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Thanks for that info.
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There's a transcript available at Durham Records Online - https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/index.php
A note against the church name says: "Baptisms did not record the father's occupation, but most include the mother's maiden surname. From 1923-1933 marriages here were mixed with marriages from St. Mary's RC. Catholic marriages do not record ages or occupations."
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There's a transcript available at Durham Records Online - https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/index.php
A note against the church name says: "Baptisms did not record the father's occupation, but most include the mother's maiden surname. From 1923-1933 marriages here were mixed with marriages from St. Mary's RC. Catholic marriages do not record ages or occupations."
You are quite right, (apologies!) what I should have said was that there are no Ellison baptisms.
Having looked again there is a baptism for an Abel ALLISON, parents Alfred & Jane on 31 July 1870 but that is at St Saviour, Shotton with Haswell and that is an Anglican Church.
Boo
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Thanks Boo,
That's really interesting as in 1871 the family is recorded as living at Shotton Colliery.
I had the info re the Easington baptism from a family member, but he could be wrong.
Abel was certainly married in an R.C. church and his religion is given at his burial, but maybe he was a convert.
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I looked at some of the census returns, the 1871 shows that the parents originated in Lancashire
Lancs BMD has a marriage (1855) for Alfred Ellison and Jane Rogers, at All Saints Wigan (Anglican).
I can see Anglican baptisms on ancestry for the other two children listed in 1871.
ADDED both baptisms in Lancs
Do you have the RC Parish marriage entry for Abel's marriage? That 'may' give a clue as to when he decided to convert. 'Disp' usually indicates a dispensation was obtained if one of the parties was not RC.
Have you looked into his wife's side of the family, if they were all RC then that could explain it?
Boo
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Thankyou.
I know the family came from Wigan. I have a possible baptism for Alfred for 1831 at All Saints', which gives date of birth as Dec. 1830.
I also have the marriage to Jane. I'm still working on the children.
So far I have
John, born & bapt. 1856, d. 1858
Thomas, born & bapt. 1857
John b. 1860, bapt. 1867
Alfred, b. & bapt. 1867 (he is listed as 6th child and 5th son so there are two others before
him)
Then there's Abel.
I din't know there were any children born after him (i.e. 1871), so could you please send details.
Re Abel's marriage, I don't have the actual marriage cert. but I know he was married to Margaret Pilkington on 17/02/1890 at St. William's, Ince. She was bapt. in St. Patrick's R.C. church in Wigan.
I have burial regs. for both Alfred and Jane (both C. of E.)
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I'm still working on the children.
So far I have
John, born & bapt. 1856, d. 1858
Thomas, born & bapt. 1857
John b. 1860, bapt. 1867
Alfred, b. & bapt. 1867 (he is listed as 6th child and 5th son so there are two others before
him)
Then there's Abel.
I din't know there were any children born after him (i.e. 1871), so could you please send details.
I think you may have misinterpreted, I said I had looked at the 1871 census and that there are baptisms for the other two children listed in 1871 (i.e. listed on the 1871 census with Abel and their parents)
Re Abel's marriage, I don't have the actual marriage cert. but I know he was married to Margaret Pilkington on 17/02/1890 at St. William's, Ince. She was bapt. in St. Patrick's R.C. church in Wigan.
The GRO marriage cert would not have the info I was talking about, the RC parish Registers would be in a different format to the civil registration and it was common to record (in latin) if one of the parties was not Catholic. If you have access to ancestry look at a Liverpool Catholic marriage to see what I mean about the format of RC marriage registers being different to what is standard on a marriage cert/Anglican Register.
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/media/67374/I.pdf
That page, indicates that the registers after 1817 are still held by the church, so unless the parish priest is willing to check for you there's unfortunately no way to see what was on the record.
Boo