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Title: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: blondyface on Sunday 04 February 18 14:13 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I can't find the 1891 and 1881 census for the address 209 Queen's Road, Battersea, London. I want to know who lived at that address then. I am tracing the history of Battersea (my home town) and am looking at certain houses. I also want to know when 209 Queen's Road was built. I have the 1901 and 1911 census for that address but no others, can anyone help? Thank you!
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: JJen on Sunday 04 February 18 14:58 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

If it's of any help in 1896 a Mrs Ellen Fry, music teacher is living at 209 Queen's Road, Battersea.

Source - Kelly's London Suburban Directory, 1896

JJ
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: blondyface on Sunday 04 February 18 15:14 GMT (UK)
Hi JJ

Thank you very much for that, great help! Is she living alone or with any others? Also is there any earlier references for that house? Thank you once again!

Sophie
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: josey on Sunday 04 February 18 15:25 GMT (UK)
1:2500 map of Battersea 1890s
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=51.4722&lon=-0.1753&layers=168&b=1
see reply 8 for link
Have a look around & find Queens Road, you may be able to see how many houses had been built at that time.

PS Welcome from me too!!

ADDED: Has the road been demolished/renamed? I can't find it on a modern map.
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 February 18 15:40 GMT (UK)
This from Wikipedia:

 Queenstown Road is a railway station in inner south-west London, 2 miles 50 chains (4.2 km) south-west of London Waterloo, between Vauxhall and Clapham Junction. It is a short walk from Battersea Park station and Battersea Park to the west. It has three platforms, two of which are in use by all stopping services related to ...
Station code‎: ‎QRB   1 November 1877‎: ‎Opened as Queen's Road ...
Number of platforms‎: ‎3 (2 in use)   12 May 1980‎: ‎Renamed Queenstown Road ..

Carol
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: JJen on Sunday 04 February 18 15:44 GMT (UK)
Looking at earlier census for Queen's Road it is a bit difficulty to define the correct house as many of the households are just recorded as Queen's Road with no numbers.

With regard to Mrs Ellen Fry, the directories does not list other occupants.

London Electoral Registers for 1905 has an Alfred Lloyd living at 209 Queen's Road.

JJ
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: chempat on Sunday 04 February 18 15:45 GMT (UK)
Have you found any of the houses in Queens Road in 1881 and 1891?

If so, have you looked at the front pages to see what route the enumerator took,and also just worked through all the pages until you get to the end?
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: chempat on Sunday 04 February 18 15:52 GMT (UK)
In 1881 Battersea District 57 seems to stop at 21 Queens Road, and then moves into Queens Crescent and other roads such as West Street and South Street.
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: josey on Sunday 04 February 18 16:01 GMT (UK)
Can you tell us blondyface where 209 is? What roads is it near the junction of & is it south of Lavender Hill or north? ADDED: Queens Road only north of Lavender Hill, my mistake

So this is the area in the 1890s
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=51.4710&lon=-0.1492&layers=168&b=1
quite a few gaps with no housing on the east side.

ADDED: Thanks for the pointer to Queenstown Road, Carol.
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: blondyface on Sunday 04 February 18 16:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for your help, Queen's road is now called Queenstown road, 209 is actually the house I grew up in and still live In now! I just can't seem to find out when the house was built. The little cottages round the corner in Broughton Street going up the back way to Clapham Common have plaques on the front saying 1874, so I wonder if the houses on Queenstown road were built around the same time?
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 February 18 16:37 GMT (UK)
Here is an interesting document about the building and development of Queenstown Road and the surrounding area...it would seem that development of Queens Road took place between 1870-1880


Battersea Park Estate - UCL
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/architecture/sites/.../50.03_around_battersea_park.pdf
replacing earlier housing between Albert Bridge and Battersea Bridge Roads. Recent years ... Early history. The park area was formerly the heartland of Battersea Fields. It was intensively cultivated for strip farming and market gardens but thinly inhabited ..... Victoria (later Queen's, now Queenstown) Road became part of a.


Carol
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: josey on Sunday 04 February 18 16:39 GMT (UK)
So is your house shown here or is it in the gaps on housing on both sides of the road?
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=51.4722&lon=-0.1483&layers=168&b=1
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: blondyface on Sunday 04 February 18 16:44 GMT (UK)
I can never really make those maps out lol, but there are gaps on the street for back roads and a roundabout. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 February 18 16:47 GMT (UK)
If you click on Josie's link then press the side by side option at the top you will see the present location too and the old map side by side.
Carol
Title: Re: 1891 and 1881 census
Post by: chempat on Monday 05 February 18 07:02 GMT (UK)
204 on modern google maps looks to be just south of the station of that name, and before the first rail track crosses over, so lots of gaps there.