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Title: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: Valerie A Newman on Sunday 04 February 18 21:00 GMT (UK)
I Have
Edward Thomas / Thomas Edward Spicer born March Qtr 1852 Eastry Kent
Died 14th March 1924 age 71 Williamstown born 1852 if born after 14th March or 1853 before
Married Rachel Ann Newing, September Qtr 1875  Eastry Kent
Father John Newing mother Marianne / Mary Ann Clark
Chr. 2nd February 1854 Eastry Kent  Died 15th July 1921 age 66 Williamstown

If possible I would like to know more about his parents and if his father's name and occupation is the same on the BC and MC. I do not know when the couple left for Australia .
 Thank you
 Val Newman
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 04 February 18 21:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Edward Thomas Spicer on the GRO Index March qtr 1852 Eastry indicates his mothers maiden name was Lawrence, oddly their are two entries 2a 161 Spicer male and 2a 613 one ...rence the other Lawrence
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 February 18 21:21 GMT (UK)
I'm afraid the only way that you are likely to get the information from the birth and marriage certificate is to buy them from the GRO. At the moment you can get them online for £6 rather than the paper ones for £9.25.

www.gro.gov.uk
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 04 February 18 21:45 GMT (UK)
Hi possibly the Edward Thomas Spicer registration 1852 Eastry formed part of this family in 1861 census:-

Edward Spicer 53
Sarah 46
Launce L 18 ( Son)
EDWARD 9
Emma 6
George 3
Residing North Wall, Deal, Kent
Census ref RG09/543/130/20
Keyboard86

Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: Valerie A Newman on Sunday 04 February 18 22:07 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your help. I now know that they left for Australia in 1876 but do not know the name of the ship,is there a list that I could search
Thanks again for your time and great results
Val Newman
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: grandarog on Monday 05 February 18 19:01 GMT (UK)
Do you have this .

Williamstown Chronicle ..Saturday 22 March 1924

OBITUARY.

THOMAS SPICER

A very old and highly esteemed resident of this city, in the person of Mr. Thomas Edward Spicer, passed to the great beyond on Thursday morning last, the 13th inst., at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. D.Mc-Kenzie; 65 Albert-street, Port Mel-bourne after a brief illness. De-ceased, who was 71 years of age, was a native of Deal, Kent, England; and for over 40 years resided locally  at
Ilawarra street, where he was  highly respected. The funeral took place on Friday afternoon, leaving his daughter's residence for interment in the local necropolis, and was  largely attended. The Rev. E. E. Robinson(Anglican) officiated at the cemetery,and Mr. Ernest W. Jackson. Ferguson-street, efficiently carried out the funeral arrangements.

Source Trove.
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: Valerie A Newman on Monday 05 February 18 22:26 GMT (UK)
Thank you so very much for the newspaper article. It is lovely to know he thought of was so well .
Val Newman
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 05 February 18 22:48 GMT (UK)
Thank you so very much for the newspaper article. It is lovely to know he thought of was so well .
Val Newman

Hi again, why have you got the parentage of Rachel Newing and not Edward Thomas Thomas Edward, a marriage certificate is a must for all, not just for you?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: Valerie A Newman on Tuesday 06 February 18 05:12 GMT (UK)
He always referred to himself as Thomas but was actually named  Edward Thomas. That must have been because his father was always called Edward. I needed to confirm that his mother was Sarah Lawrence and i now know that they were married in 1837. I have found records for the birth of all of their children except Henry / Harry. Some were born in SA and some in Victoria. I think that may be Henry was born whilst they were journeying between the two states.
Title: Re: Edward Thomas Spicer
Post by: Valerie A Newman on Tuesday 06 February 18 05:17 GMT (UK)
I since found records giving his parents name on his death record n Victorian records
Sorry about that
Val