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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: carver1641 on Thursday 08 February 18 12:33 GMT (UK)
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from Newbury Middlesex county Ontario died dec 7 1896 84 yrs old trying to find out when he came to Canada from England and any other imfo my great great grandfather
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What information do you already have ?
Edward appears on the 1851 census of Wentworth County Canada with wife and children. 4 of those children listed were born in Suffolk England. Emily aged 3 was born Guelph Ontario.
There are a lack of passenger lists prior to 1865 so it unlikely we can find them listed.
Edward aged 40 years. born Suffolk Eng. Farmer.
Margaret aged 25 years born Suffolk Eng.
John aged 14 years born Suffolk Eng.
Charlotte aged 12 years born Suffolk Eng.
Margaret aged 11 years born Suffolk Eng.
Emily E aged 3 years born Guelph. Ont.
Anc tree shows John Leech parents Edward leech and Barbara Rhoda.
John Leech 1838 - Wickham Market, Suffolk.
1841 census Wickham Market Suffolk.
Edward Leech 25-29 Suffolk
Rhoda Leech 25-29 Suffolk
William Leech 9 Suffolk
Maria Leech 7 Suffolk
Robert Leech 5 Suffolk
John Leech 3 Suffolk
Charlotte Leech 1 Suffolk
Sandra
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Looks like Edward Leech remarried 16 June 1866 to Susannah Seromisnan - Mosa Township. Middlesex.
Parents Samuel and Deborah.
Sandra
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Death record for Emily Ellen Leech/Randall - indicates she was born Elgin Co. Ontario - 21 June 1849
Father Edward Leech - mother unknown.
Married James Randall 19 February 1877 Middlesex Ontario.
Sandra
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Interesting that on 2 US Census the son John Leech/Leach immigration was 1847. You need to be signed in to see the images on family search (it is free)
1910 Maple Valley, Sanilac, Michigan. Mistranscribed as Dack ??? (This has been changed to Leech on anc.)
John Dack 72 Born Eng. Imm 1847. farmer. general farm. own account. NA
Eliza Francis Dack 50
Genevive Dack 17
Russel Dack 15
Albert Dack 13
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLT3-5QW
also 1920 census
John Leach aged 81. Immigrated 1847. NA.
Eliza Leach aged 59 years.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ7H-WHB
Sandra
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Thankyou so much for you help my great grandfather married his daughter susan from second wife his name was Jason bell from mosa Edward was always hard to find mabey now I can find out more about him in Guelph..thanks again appears he had a little money nice farm in mosa.
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Don't forget that the death record for Emily Ellen Leech/Randall - indicates she was born Elgin Co. Ontario - 21 June 1849 ???
Sandra
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Looking at the 1852 census.....
Edward appears to have a very young wife, age 25, and I think her name is Mary A rather than Margaret? She is too young to be the mother of the older children. The GRO index has MMN as Barber for Charlotte and little Mary A. There is a marriage of an Edward Leech and a Rhoda Barber in 1832 in Suffolk which would match the 1841 census posted earlier.
When Edward's son Samuel b. 1852 marries for the first time in 1875 his mother is given as Mary, and as Mary Leader for his second marriage in 1902. His first marriage was to Hannah Scrimshaw, daughter of Joseph and Susan Scrimshaw. His second marriage was to a widowed Elizabeth Stocking nee Flagg.
Edward marries Susan in 1866 and they have several children. I think her name is quite garbled in the marriage transcript and should actually be Scrimshaw. She can be found in Mosa in the 1861 census with 4 children including George and Jerimiah, who are with the family in 1971. I think her first child with Edward was probably Elizabeth.
I can't at the moment find a death for Rhoda in England or Ontario. Ontario, of course, not having civil registration until 1869 doesn't help. But to me it looks like she died after the birth of Mary Ann (she could even have died at sea on the journey over), Edward married Mary Ann with whom he had several children and who must have also passed, and then he married Susan in 1866.
Anyway, food for thought.
PB
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Thanks PB - Sorry the wife was Mary and not Margaret on the 1851 census (my mistake) - - I couldn't find a death for Edwards first wife in the UK or Canada either. :'(
Sandra
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She could lay in Wardsville Cemetery with Edward and the rest of the family just not photographed.
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2375806/wardsville-municipal-cemetery
You might find other family in Glencoe (Oakland Cemetery) there is Elizabeth Leech buried there.
Also, Edwards farm was between Newbury and Glencoe on the 14th Concession across for the railway tracks.
https://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/Images/Maps/TownshipMaps/mid-m-mosa.jpg
If you are looking for more info contact the Glencoe Historical Society. Glencoe is actually closer to the farm than Wardsville. They have info on all the Mosa cemeteries. I would look at Leitch as well since it is possible that the two families have blended together in the archives.
Don
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Although it says Edward, Mary, and Robert were b. Scotland, this does look like the family in 1861. Emily Ellen is down as Ellin, the younger children match the next census.
They are living in Southwold Elgin now.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4391546_00068.jpg
Indexed as Sirtch on Anc*
PB
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thank you so much for the help this can get confusing at times truly appreciate anything you find
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I believe the farm house still stands and is lived in if I'm correct.
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Sorry it’s been awhile still looking for Edward and family just learned he was from Suffolk england born around 1802 father Samual any help
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In case you don't have it, this looks like Edward and family in the 1871 census (bottom of top page and top of lower page), courtesy of Library and Archives Canada....
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1871&op=img&id=4396603_00386
PB
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That looks correct do you have any resources to find him in Suffolk England
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Earlier in the thread you have info that the MMN od Edward's children Charlotte and Mary was Barber.
You have Edward in the 1841 census with presumed wife Rhoda and children.
There is a probable marriage in 1832 for an Edward Leech and a Rhoda Barber. This took place at Pettistree, Suffolk. Added: date was 04 Feb.
You have Edward's marriage to Susannah that gives his parents as Samuel and Deborah.
Edward's birth year appears to be about 1812. There is a possible baptism 09 Aug 1813 at Wickham Market, Suffolk; parents Samuel and Deborah.
There is a baptism for a possible brother William in Wickham Market. Birth given as 25 Aug 1815 and baptism 28 Aug 1815; parents Samuel and Deborah.
This looks like it might be Samuel and Deborah in the 1841 census, living in Petistree, Suffolk.
Saml Leech 60
Deborah Leech 60
William Leech 25
There is a possible marriage for a Samuel Leech and a Deborah Capon 22 Nov 1805 in Parham, Suffolk. This couple could be the parents of Edward and William.
PB
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Thankyou PB for all your help it really does get confusing to make sure we have the right people but I think you are spot on