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Title: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: GWENDOLINE on Friday 09 February 18 22:36 GMT (UK)
I would like to find the history of a Georgian house in Mill Street
Which is the bst census . 1881.
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 09 February 18 23:00 GMT (UK)
If it was Georgian, it should appear with residents, on all censuses.

You can search via addresses on Find My Past, but numbering, if there were numbers, may have changed. Is it the residents of this property through the ages that you are trying to trace, or the history of the building itself?

Are you willing to give the current address in case anyone can help? (I understand you may not wish to do so if it is your address)  :)
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: GWENDOLINE on Saturday 10 February 18 09:08 GMT (UK)
The address is 50 Mill Street. I have found local history says it was firs5 brick constructed house in 1713 so just pre Georgian.  Would like to find out  its occupants and usage from then .
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 10 February 18 10:04 GMT (UK)
There is no house numbering in Mill Street in the 1841, 1851 or 1861 censuses but there are landmarks to identify. Number 50 is next to the Guildhall and 2 doors away from the Blue Boar Inn at number 52. The Hop Pole was at number 53. 

The landlord of The Blue Boar in 1841 and 1851 was John Davies. 2 doors away in 1841 was this household:

Abigail Hodges 55 Ind
Edmund Gill 20 Artist
William Gill 17 Artist
Mary Davies 43 Dressmaker
Jane Davies 20 Dressmaker
John Davies 6 months

Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 10 February 18 10:31 GMT (UK)
By the same methodology, 2 doors away from the Blue Boar and next to the Guildhall in 1851 is this house with multiple occupancy:

John Russell 26 Bricklayer
Sarah 30
George 7 months
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Elizabeth Meredith 44 staymaker
Mary A Stone 13 lodger
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John W Manders 27 solicitor's general clerk
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 10 February 18 10:41 GMT (UK)
For the  1861 census we get some help from this 1863 directory which tells us that John Davies, cowkeeper was at number 50: https://goo.gl/FHVCiQ

In the census he is:

John Davies 69 retired publican and proprietor of houses
Mary Davies 67 wife
Harriet Palmer 65 servant
William Teague 13 servant
Robert W Mole 32 lodger Wesleyan Minister Ludlow Chapel
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 10 February 18 10:55 GMT (UK)
For 1871, 1881 and 1891 you are looking for Mary Cook born circa 1824-1826. For later years look for her sister Fanney/Fanny Cooke.

Also see historic newspapers for:

- Mr Jones Finch (actor) resident at 50 Mill Street in 1892, advertising in the Era
- Very informative reports of a court case in October and November 1905 concerning a claimed historic right of way through Blue Boar yard to number 50, with testimony from several aged residents of Ludlow. (Ludlow Advertiser)
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: GWENDOLINE on Saturday 10 February 18 11:03 GMT (UK)
Brilliant. .. thank you so much.  I am guessing pre 1841 I have to go to parish records and local archives...  newspapers maybe ...

Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 10 February 18 11:36 GMT (UK)
House deeds, land tax records, directories, electoral rolls
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 10 February 18 12:49 GMT (UK)
Great finds Shaun.  :)

You may wish to contact this group:
http://www.ludlowcivicsociety.org/ludlowcivicsoci3.html
Though it is probably unlikely they will have anything about this specific house unless it is architecturally significant or associated with someone important.

I feel there should be some old town plans to add to the story, but a quick look hasn't found anything yet. Maybe the civic society can help you with that too?

Good luck. It's a lovely house (if it is yours I am very jealous)  ;D
Title: Re: 1881 census for Mill Street Ludlow. How to research.
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 10 February 18 12:58 GMT (UK)
Here's an 1886 map. http://maps.nls.uk/view/121153754#zoom=7&lat=2074&lon=1206&layers=BT

Number 50 is the house adjoining the Guildhall near the "I" in Mill Street. Next but one above is the Blue Boar, above that is the now-defunct Hop Pole.