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Title: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: mrcakey on Tuesday 13 February 18 12:27 GMT (UK)

Is anyone able to decipher what's in the middle here? This is a birth cert for Ann Houghton who sadly passed very shortly after she was born along with her twin brother William. I've asked for a re-scan, but I thought maybe better trained eyes could discern it.

Fifth
October 1872

??????????????

29 Inkerman
Grove

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 13 February 18 12:32 GMT (UK)

Fifth October 1872
8 O'clock  something
290  something Grove

sorry - still 2 "somethings" to work on!!!

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: Geoff-E on Tuesday 13 February 18 12:33 GMT (UK)

29 Inkerman Grove

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: Bookbox on Tuesday 13 February 18 12:47 GMT (UK)

Looks to me like ... 8 o'clock "Bells"
But if it really is the time of birth, I believe it should say am or pm.

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: Deskman on Tuesday 13 February 18 13:12 GMT (UK)

mrcakey, If you have it is the twin's entry any clearer?

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: CarolA3 on Tuesday 13 February 18 13:33 GMT (UK)

8 o'clock "P.M."  I imagine the "" are there because PM is an abbreviation.

The time would be entered on each twin's record to establish which one was born first in case of inheritance disputes etc.  Obviously not an issue in this case as neither twin survived.

Carol

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: Donnie H on Tuesday 13 February 18 13:46 GMT (UK)

I would agree with Geoff-E it looks like 29 Inkerman Grove.

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: mrcakey on Tuesday 13 February 18 13:47 GMT (UK)

Thanks all.

I must admit I can barely see the "o'clock" myself :D but it makes sense as that's what should be there. And the "P.M." also makes sense.

I don't have the twin's certificate - I was just wanting to be 100% sure on parentage after discovering them in the GRO index.

If I get a re-scan I'll post again and let everyone know.

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 13 February 18 14:54 GMT (UK)

Quote from: CarolA3 on Tuesday 13 February 18 13:33 GMT (UK)

8 o'clock "P.M." 

I can see the "P.M." now!! 

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: Rockford on Tuesday 13 February 18 19:50 GMT (UK)

Hi,

I don't believe it is 8 o'clock.  It will be 8h 0m PM - all Scottish certificates I have seen have the time written as h and m, with AM or PM used to differentiate.

And definitely Inkerman Grove  :D

Best wishes

Rockford

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: mrcakey on Tuesday 27 February 18 16:01 GMT (UK)

I promised I'd update. I didn't get a re-scan, but the response from the GRO was:

"The entry has been checked, and column one appears to read “Fifth October 1872, 8H oM (8 hours 0 minutes)“P.M”, 29 Inkerman, Grove."

Thanks all for helping.

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: CarolA3 on Wednesday 28 February 18 05:44 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the update.  First prize goes to Rockford ;D

Carol

Title: Re: Birth certificate missing detail
Post by: Rockford on Wednesday 28 February 18 14:50 GMT (UK)

*blushes*

 ;D