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Title: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 14 February 18 03:38 GMT (UK)
Looking for any information re the immigration and birth of

Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens)

They married March quarter 1862 Bethnal Green, London

Their first daughter Emily Louisa born 23 Sep 1862 Middlesex, England
Their first son William 1864 Middlesex, England
Son George 1866 Middlesex, England

Then daughter Ada born 1871 Victoria
Son Frank born 1875  Victoria

Then daughter Maggie 1878 Adelaide 
Lilly May 1880 Adelaide                   

Jane died 11 June 1893 but the death notes says they have only been in Adelaide 3 weeks so I guess they came and went

Charles died 25 January 1906  aged 74 again buried West Terrace

I can't seem to find a birth or bapt for either or the Ship they may have arrived on....
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: Essie on Wednesday 14 February 18 04:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheran

The family arrived in VIC on the ship Great Britain Sep 1868 as unassisted passengers.

TROVE reported Jane had received medical treatment in Melbourne and had returned home three weeks before her death.

Essie

Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: cupoflife on Wednesday 14 February 18 04:52 GMT (UK)
Edit: Removed wrong info
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 14 February 18 06:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Cheran

The family arrived in VIC on the ship Great Britain Sep 1868 as unassisted passengers.

TROVE reported Jane had received medical treatment in Melbourne and had returned home three weeks before her death.

Essie




Further information re above.

Great Britain. Arr. Sept. 1868.

SUFFOLK, Charles. Aged 36. Shoe Maker.
SUFFOLK, Jane Aged 36
SUFFOLK, Louisa. aged 5
SUFFOLK, William. Aged 4
SUFFOLK, George. Aged 2

Arrived Melbourne.
Departed Liverpool.

Sue
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 14 February 18 06:47 GMT (UK)
Baptism.
Baptisms solemnized Saint Mary, Islington. Middlesex


Born 14th May, 1831. Entry number 188
Charles. Son of William Johnston SUFFOLK. Gentleman  and Ann MANLEY.
Address, Chapman Street.
Performed by T. M. FALLOW

Sue
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 14 February 18 06:52 GMT (UK)
They married at St Phillips Bethnal Green 20 January 1862
Charles Suffolk 29 shoemaker single, address Greenfield Street, father William Suffolk Gentleman
Jane Stephens 25 single address Greenfield Street, father George Alexander Stephens, shoemaker

Witness George Alexander Stephens, Elizabeth Stephens.
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 14 February 18 07:23 GMT (UK)



STEPHENS family can be seen on 1851 census headed by George A., a shoemaker aged 60
His wife Elizabeth , aged 50 is also present. There are a number of children.
Jane is aged 14 and a scholar, born at Whitechapel, Middlesex.

Sue
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: amondg on Wednesday 14 February 18 07:27 GMT (UK)
1841,1851,1861 The Stephens family lived at 4 Henage? Street Spitalfields Middlesex

1841
George Stephens 50 Shoemaker not born in county
Elizabeth 40 born in county
Willie 15
Elizabeth 15
Mary A 13
Samuel 11
Henry 9
Charles 7
James 6
JANE 4
John 10 months

1851 add Louisa born 1842

1861
George Alexander Stephens 75 Shoe maker born Warwick Warwickshire
Elizabeth 60 born Whitechapel Middlesex
Charles 28 born Spitalfields
Jane 24 born Spitalfields.

George Alexander Stephens married Elizabeth Holmes 14 June 1824 St Leonard's Shoreditch.

Using new GRO index for youngest children John  and Louisa mothers maiden name recorded as Homes.
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 14 February 18 07:34 GMT (UK)
Further information re the marriage of Jane's parents.

They were both of the parish and consent was not needed for either party.

They were married by Banns and George signed while Jane made her mark.

The witnesses were Francis HOLMES and Clifford ELISHA

Sue
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 14 February 18 20:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for all the information.....  It is much appreciated

Just as a side bit, Charles & Janes eldest daughter Emma Louisa married Richard Homes in Fitzroy, Victoria    wonder about the Homes Holmes!!!!

 8) 8)
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Wednesday 14 February 18 21:03 GMT (UK)
Baptism.
Baptisms solemnized Saint Mary, Islington. Middlesex


Born 14th May, 1831. Entry number 188
Charles. Son of William Johnston SUFFOLK. Gentleman  and Ann MANLEY.
Address, Chapman Street.
Performed by T. M. FALLOW

Sue

Sorry Sue is this birth date or the baptism date?   
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 15 February 18 04:45 GMT (UK)
The ceremony of Baptism was June 17th, 1831
Sue
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 15 February 18 05:21 GMT (UK)

Just as a side bit, Charles & Janes eldest daughter Emma Louisa married Richard Homes in Fitzroy, Victoria    wonder about the Homes Holmes!!!!

 8) 8)

A couple named Richard and Louisa HOMES arrived in Victoria in 1866.
He was aged 24, a labourer and she 23.
A child named Richard aged 2 also.
A note on the manifest.
"Louisa, wife of Richard HOMES delivered of a female alive child 5th March 1866."

This is the birth registration lodged in Victoria after arrival.

Name Mary Jane HOMES
1866
Birth Place At Sea
Year1866. Reg 7551
Registration Place Victoria,
Father Richard HOMES   
Mother  Louisa STEPHENS

Sue
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 15 February 18 05:38 GMT (UK)
This is possibly the death of the above woman. A change of surname spelling perhaps.

Louisa HOLMES
Age 36
Father STEPHENS Georg
Mother Elizabeth HOLMES 
Year 1877
Place  of birth London
Registration 9237

Sue

ADDING  The marriage in England

Marriage Sept 1/4 1863
HOMES Richard
STEPHENS Louisa         
Bethnal Gn 1c/710 
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: amondg on Thursday 15 February 18 06:17 GMT (UK)
Louisa Stephens was the youngest daughter of George Alexander and Elizabeth Stephens, she married Richard Homes 13 July 1863 at St Phillips Bethnal Green.

Richard Homes was 20 occupation Porter of 9 Tyssen Street father Richard Homes
Louisa Stephens was 21 also of Tyssen Street father George Alexander Stephens, shoemaker
Witness George Alexander Stephens and Elizabeth Stephens.

Her brother Willie/William married Sarah Wilkinson  23 November 1857 at St Phillips he was 34 of 5 Hare Street, she was 43 and a widow of 4 Hare Street father William Ellitt a weaver. Witnesses are his parents.
Brother Samuel married Elizabeth Mullens  29 January 1854 also at St Phillips he was 24 she was 33 both of Little Pearl Street.


Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: amondg on Thursday 15 February 18 06:24 GMT (UK)
Her brother James Stephens married 28 December 1857 age 22 of Hare Street, father G A Stephens- Mary Anne Hurley age20 also of Hare Street father William Hurley a carpenter
Witnesses are his brother Samuel Stephens and sister Louisa Stephens
Church St Phillips Bethnal Green
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Thursday 15 February 18 09:06 GMT (UK)
I wondered if there was a link given  Richard Homes & Louisa Stephens had married....

Thanks for looking these up for me   its a great help....

I have Richard Homes (married to Emily Louisa Suffolk) son of Richard and Louisa born 10 May 1863 london....


 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: amondg on Thursday 15 February 18 09:56 GMT (UK)
The marriage image for Richard Homes and Louisa Stephens 1863 is on ancestry.com
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: sparrett on Thursday 15 February 18 10:31 GMT (UK)
I wondered if there was a link given  Richard Homes & Louisa Stephens had married....

Thanks for looking these up for me   its a great help....


I have Richard Homes (married to Emily Louisa Suffolk) son of Richard and Louisa born 10 May 1863 london....


 :) :) :)

Well, as it turned out, you wondered correctly.

There was a link and your summary above  is correct.

No doubt there is more  be found on the relationships between the HOMES and STEPHENS families, but perhaps most of your initial queries have been answered at this stage. ;D ;D

For your interest...
Richard HOMES arriving in Victoria with wife Louisa (nee STEPHENS) and his child Richard, had parents Richard HOMES and Jane SPEARMAN according to my marriage, census and GRO searches.           

Sue
Title: Re: Charles and Jane Suffolk (Nee Stephens) Middlesex, Victoria and Adelaide
Post by: CHERAN on Thursday 15 February 18 20:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sue

 8) :)