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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: jc26red on Wednesday 14 February 18 12:46 GMT (UK)
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Hi again,
I need your help again :-\
I'm having trouble working out the top occupation (groom's father) on the attached Australian marriage entry from 1908. I can see that the bottom occupation (bride's father) was a mail carrier.
many thanks
Jenny
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Trades ?????? I thought messenger but the first letter isn't the same as the M in Mail. Looks as if it ends "sier"
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Trades Hosier? It doesn't sound right but that's the closest I can get.
Carol
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The only other word that I can think of besides Hosier is Mersier - mis-spelling of Mercier. But that would be a tautology - Trades merchant :-\
Gadget
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Modified
Malky
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Overseer.
Debra :)
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Is there another word anywhere on the certificate that starts with the same letter? I'd guess it's probably an M or H.
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who could see "hosier" but that didn't make sense at all.
In the meantime, I've been looking at some of the marriages for his other children and one of them is a lot clearer and does say trades overseer.
Well done Debra
Thank you all
Jenny
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His obituary:
Joining the New South Wales Artillery as a young man he spent seven years at the Garrison at North Head. In May, 1877, he joined the Prison Department and acted as Trades Overseer, and when the gaol was closed in that town he was transferred to a similar position at Bathurst. Another transfer in 1905 brought him to Parramatta, where he served 10 years at the local gaol prior to retiring.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155733780
Debra :)
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Crikey Debra... your sleuthing skills are on the ball today! Yes that is the right man.
Thinking about it, I should have looked at the electoral registers first.
The good news, is that all Hosfords in NSW are related, which makes life so much easier. Only a couple of them went over to Victoria.
Thank you for the extra info... I shall be back on Trove later ;D
Jenny
Just to add to the obituary, James Joseph's father Thomas was the governor of Goulburn Gaol until his death in 1869
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Overseer.
Debra :)
Nice one Debra 8)...I wouldn't have got that...I was seeing the same three last letters in Carrier and they seemed to match the last three in the unforgiving word ::) ;D ;D ;D
Carol
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In the meantime, I've been looking at some of the marriages for his other children and one of them is a lot clearer and does say trades overseer.
Well done Debra
Crumbs. :o I wouldn't have got that one! Well done indeed!
Karen
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Amazing - really well seen :)
I wonder what any graphologists would make of it:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=787690.0
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Probably think it was a "Left Hand Scrawl" ::) ::) ::)
Malky
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Probably think it was a "Left Hand Scrawl" ::) ::) ::)
Malky
Hush your mouth Malky :o ...I'm a left hander and get many compliments about my handwriting, also we are a very artistic breed :P ;D ;D ;D
Carol
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Think he might have been getting at me, Carol. I put up a snip of some of my very quick left handed scribble on the signature thread ;D
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Gadget, I certainly would "not get at anyone" let alone your good self. Not in my nature whatsover. I was born left handed, was forceably changed at school in the fifties and sixties, and to this day, my writing is still like a "hen's scrawl" left or right handed unless I am using Calligraphy pens. Thank progress for keyboards.
Malky
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S'ok, Malky. I was teasing - lots of lefties around. Not sure about this one though. He just doesn't seem to know how to spell. The best you can say is it's OVersier.
;D
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Well I think this lefty must be invisible...I have been ignored in better places than this,,,it's enough to give a girl a complex ::) ;D ;D ;D
Carol
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I read somewhere that the number of left-handed surgeons and solicitors is far higher than the average percentage, i.e. lefties are somehow predisposed to become people-repairers and legal eagles. ;D
We (I am also a leftie) are apparently also more artistically gifted. Whatever that may mean/lead to...
We had lots of lefties at my grammar school, the majority of whom held their pens with their hand "wrapped around", if you see what I mean. Their handwriting was usually obviously leftish. :) I hold my pen as a mirror image of a rightie and people are often surprised when they notice I write with my left hand ("But you don't hold your pen weirdly!" ::))
My handwriting is very big - I cannot write tiny letters, it just doesn't work. ;D I have trouble getting my signature on the back of plastic cards. :-\
I think my handwriting is messy, but a lot of people see it differently. Having said that, it is automatically different from the handwriting of people around me here in Germany, so maybe it has a certain exotic quality. ;D (Dream on...)
I started school in 1968, aged 4. Luckily, nobody ever tried to "cure" me. ;)
(My mum is a leftie, too. Dad & my 2 siblings are righties.)
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Sorry for not replying earlier, but I have had limited internet access for several weeks ... fingers crossed it has been sorted now.
That's definitely Trades Overseer :)
Likely you may already have the following:
From the 1902 NSW Electoral roll for MACQUARIE with polling at Bathurst.
Ann HOSFORD, Peel St, domestic duties
Jonathan HOSFORD, Peel St, Overseer
Sarah HOSFORD, Peel St, domestic duties
You mention “Australian marriage entry from 1908” in your Opening Post. Err ….. you are confuddling me somewhat. Surely the snip you posted is from a New South Wales marriage registration as held by the NSW statutory authority – NSW Registry of Births, Deaths, Marriages Registry. :) I am not aware of a statutory central BDM covering all of Australia.
From RChat’s sub-board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/
You will find : http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=574209.0 . (Australian BMD fact sheet)
NSW BDM :
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/about-us/history-of-the-registry.aspx
JM