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Title: What are these?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Thursday 15 February 18 03:45 GMT (UK)
A fifth cousin sent along a photo of some family items he had come across and we were wondering what they were. Any help and ideas appreciated.
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 15 February 18 05:01 GMT (UK)
They are lovely whatever they are.  :)

How long are they?

Do they have any catches which can close the ends up? (similar to a neck chain)
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Thursday 15 February 18 05:33 GMT (UK)
I do not know. All I have to go on is the photo. But they are very nice. E Hawkins was the wife of 3xgreat grandfather's brother. H Norwell their mutual nephew.
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: alpinecottage on Thursday 15 February 18 09:01 GMT (UK)
I think it could be a watch chain  ???
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: CarolA3 on Thursday 15 February 18 13:21 GMT (UK)
Most likely a watch chain.  Google "double Albert" for some examples.

Carol
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 15 February 18 13:28 GMT (UK)
Quote from: CarolA3 on Thursday 15 February 18 13:21 GMT (UK)
Most likely a watch chain.  Google "double Albert" for some examples.

Carol

With a "button" in the middle rather than the cross bar? It looks that way, especially the first example.
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Saturday 17 February 18 00:27 GMT (UK)
The lack of a cross bar is interesting - still I am not sure what else it could be.
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: bearkat on Tuesday 27 February 18 21:42 GMT (UK)
Could it be part of a chatelaine? Something similar to this:


https://www.antiques-delaval.com/en/antique-jewelry/7606-silver-chatelaine-micor-mosaic-shows-cme-flowers-jewelry-chain-nineteenth.html
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Tuesday 27 February 18 21:45 GMT (UK)
It could be. What is that though?
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: bearkat on Tuesday 27 February 18 21:50 GMT (UK)
A chatelaine is a decorative belt hook or clasp worn at the waist with a series of chains suspended from it. Each chain is mounted with useful household appendages such as scissors, thimbles, watches, keys, vinaigrette, and household seals. (from Wikipedia).

It's quite delicate.  I would expect a watch chain to be chunkier.
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: Flattybasher9 on Tuesday 27 February 18 22:36 GMT (UK)
Similar to "Kurta Buttons".

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lnz/

Malky
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Wednesday 28 February 18 10:11 GMT (UK)
Chatelaine is also the word for a female keeper of a castle. It's the word I use to refer to my partner rather than partner or other half or significant other etc The trouble is she hates the word and thinks it's pretentious.

Martin
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: bbart on Saturday 24 March 18 04:50 GMT (UK)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-14K-Gold-Collar-Buttons-and-Chain-Tuxedo-Stud-Enamel-Fleur-de-Lis-/252243154983

Hopefully the link works.  I have no idea if they are right about the collar button name, nor how one would wear them!
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 24 March 18 07:22 GMT (UK)
Tuxedo studs.
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: GeorgiyH on Saturday 24 March 18 07:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all these ideas about what it could be.
Title: Re: What are these?
Post by: youngtug on Saturday 24 March 18 08:44 GMT (UK)
Bow tie at the collar, cummerbund at waist, that usually leaves 3 fastenings of the shirt showing. Unless you have a shirt with a button cover then studs are the best option. Bit fancy with a interlinking chain.