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Title: New User
Post by: Graham Robert Jackson on Sunday 18 February 18 02:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I知 new here, and new to genealogy so please bare with me. I知 particularly interested in the Jackson family tree.

The oldest relative I have identified is John Jackson born 9th July 1763, in Whitby Yorkshire. He married Elizabeth Robinson, on the 4th April 1785. They had 11 children, I am descended from Robert Jackson their 10 child.

I would be great full of any help I can get in this cause.

Regards,
Graham Jackson
Title: Re: New User
Post by: solidrock on Sunday 18 February 18 07:56 GMT (UK)
Hi welcome to Rootschat.

I can't find a birth for John in Whitby, the only one thats close is ...

John Jackson. baptised  09 Jul 1763, KIRBY MISPERTON

as for his marriage

John Jackson  m  Elizabeth Robinson  08 May 1790, Whitby.
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Gen List Lass on Sunday 18 February 18 19:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Graham

There is a family tree on Ancestry.com that says his parents were Nicholas Jackson and Elizabeth Reed. They don't have any proof he is the son of those parents, so treat with suspicion!

Common name John Jackson, so very difficult to research!

Gen in NBL UK
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Guy Etchells on Sunday 18 February 18 20:08 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I知 new here, and new to genealogy so please bare with me. I知 particularly interested in the Jackson family tree.

The oldest relative I have identified is John Jackson born 9th July 1763, in Whitby Yorkshire. He married Elizabeth Robinson, on the 4th April 1785. They had 11 children, I am descended from Robert Jackson their 10 child.

I would be great full of any help I can get in this cause.

Regards,
Graham Jackson

Graham, I do not want to discourage a new researcher but I would urge caution with your research. To avoid disappointment at a later date try to find at least three separate sources of information for each event or record you find (by this I mean different types of records not the same record from different suppliers). Each separate record will help validate your conclusions.
It is very easy to trace ancestry back through the centuries but difficult to accurately trace ancestry.
Many people, especially these days with easy online access to records latch on to the first record they find only to find that person died before they married or could not be their ancestor as a brother or sister was born a few months before or after the one they assumed to be correct.
If you are dealing with common names you may have to run a number of families in parallel to exclude those who cannot be yours.

Of course you could have constructed an accurate tree quickly back to the mid 18th century in which case, well done and onward through parish registers, taxes, wills and testaments post mortem, etc., through the middle ages.

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: New User
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 18 February 18 20:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Graham,

WELCOME to Rootschat.

We are all here to help.

I think that most of us who have read your introductory message are amazed that for a beginner you have got back to the 1700s so early in your "genealogical career".

It would be great if you walked us through the links back to that 1700's family.
Is there a tree online that you have?
Has someone donated info, or has already built the tree back to that rough time?

Cheers!
Ray
Title: Re: New User
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 18 February 18 20:44 GMT (UK)
The 1790 marriage, where Elizabeth is a minor.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXZS-28P

the 1785 marriage (same names, Elizabeth of full age) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXZS-FLZ

Will go looking for these kids..
Title: Re: New User
Post by: angelfish58 on Sunday 18 February 18 21:01 GMT (UK)
There is a John Jackson born 9 July 1763 and baptised 16 September at St Mary the Virgin, Whitby the son of Nicholas Jackson, a master mariner.
Interestingly there's another Jackson marriage on the 4th April 1785, Richard Jackson married Eleanor Winspear with the same witnesses as the John Jackson marriage, Thomas Holt? and Elizabeth Carlin. Could Richard and John be related or is it just a coincidence as Jackson is a fairly common name.
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Graham Robert Jackson on Sunday 18 February 18 23:27 GMT (UK)
Hi,

This is potentially interesting do you have a link to family tree on Ancestory.com with this
information ?

Hi Graham

There is a family tree on Ancestry.com that says his parents were Nicholas Jackson and Elizabeth Reed. They don't have any proof he is the son of those parents, so treat with suspicion!

Common name John Jackson, so very difficult to research!

Gen in NBL UK
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Graham Robert Jackson on Sunday 18 February 18 23:30 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I知 reasonable confident of the tree back to this John Jackson but as I say I知 fairly new to this and I may have made assumptions in building the family tree that I have, it痴 on Ancestry.com but I知 not sure how to link it here or how to write it out for you to walk through in order to check my work.

Hi Graham,

WELCOME to Rootschat.

We are all here to help.

I think that most of us who have read your introductory message are amazed that for a beginner you have got back to the 1700s so early in your "genealogical career".

It would be great if you walked us through the links back to that 1700's family.
Is there a tree online that you have?
Has someone donated info, or has already built the tree back to that rough time?

Cheers!
Ray
Title: Re: New User
Post by: chempat on Monday 19 February 18 06:45 GMT (UK)
Graham, what is the name of your family tree on Ancestry, as there are several showing for John Jackson of Whitby?
Title: Re: New User
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 19 February 18 07:44 GMT (UK)
This information may or may not have been noted -

1790 marriage - John Jackson is from the parish of Guisborough, a Butcher and aged 30.

1785 marriage - John Jackson is from the parish of Whitby, a Cabinet Maker and aged 21.

And just to complicate matters even further, there is a marriage 7 June 1784, at St Mary, Whitby between:

John Jackson of  Whitby, Musician and Elizabeth Nicholson.

Title: Re: New User
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 19 February 18 07:48 GMT (UK)
Can we assume that your ancestor, Robert, was born in 1810?

Robert Jackson, born 14 January and baptised 28 January 1810 at St Mary, Whitby - son of John (Cabinet maker) and Elizabeth.

Title: Re: New User
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 19 February 18 08:14 GMT (UK)
I can see the baptism of John, son of Nicholas Jackson (Master Mariner), in 1763, amongst various other baptisms for John Jackson in the same period.

However, to my simple mind I would err towards John Jackson, born 30 December 1764 and baptised on 26 May 1765 - son of Robert Jackson, Carpenter.  :-\ :-\

Added:  BUT then John and Elizabeth have a son called Nicholas - 1799   :-[
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Siamese Girl on Monday 19 February 18 13:43 GMT (UK)


The Ancestry tree looks far too open ended to me. All baptisms and no deaths. There are several PCC (Prerogative Court of Canterbury) wills for Jacksons from Whitby and I'd suggest reading through those as they may help sort out the relationships. They are on Ancestry and  you can find them here https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=5111

Wills can be very helpful and, in my opinion are a very under-used resource. Nicholas Jackson the master mariner, who made his will 07/09/1793 and which was proved on 10/05/1799  may not have had any children as there are none named  - which doesn't mean he didn't have them  but makes it unlikely. He mentions his brother Charles Jackson's sons Nicholas and William and other nieces and nephews Charles and Sophia Jackson. Other names mentioned are Heseltine and Smith. His brother Charles was the executor of the will.

Carole
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Graham Robert Jackson on Monday 19 February 18 15:00 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Graham, what is the name of your family tree on Ancestry, as there are several showing for John Jackson of Whitby?

As far as I知 aware it痴 just called Jackson Family Tree, is there a specific identifier I知 looking for?
Title: Re: New User
Post by: chempat on Monday 19 February 18 20:01 GMT (UK)
Jackson Family Tree, owner Mickey Jackson?
Title: Re: New User
Post by: Graham Robert Jackson on Monday 19 February 18 20:35 GMT (UK)
Jackson Family Tree, owner Mickey Jackson?

No owner should be Graham Jackson
Title: Re: New User
Post by: familydar on Monday 19 February 18 21:15 GMT (UK)
If you check the url (website link) for your ancestry tree, Graham, it should contain a number of perhaps 10 or so digits, probably after the word tree.  If you could give us that number, or even better the full url, it would enable us to see what you are seeing.

Jane :-)