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Although Samson Milsom appears to be an unusual name, I’m having trouble identifying his parents. The marriage record shows his father as Isaac, but family trees on Ancestry all say Joseph Milsom amd Catherine Yealf. Then it comes to his wife, Elizabeth Wilson, who was either born in Bath or Newfoundland depending on which census you want to believe. It would be great if someone could throw some light on this for me. Many thanks.
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I wouldn't take too much notice of Ancestry trees. They have their uses but have to be taken at face value.
It only takes 1 person to put up the wrong information which then gets copied by others.
If you have his marriage cert. & it says his father is Isaac then until you can prove otherwise you have to accept it's true.
Elizabeth appears to have been born in Newfoundland, the later census showing Bath I would suggest is just someone putting everybody down for convenience.
There were strong trading links between Bristol & Newfoundland.
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Who was Elizabeth's father from the marriage certificate?
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Trial in Somerset for Sampson Milsom 16/7/1838 aged 21 , he was acquitted.
Jennifer
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Register online has Elizabeth ‘s father as John Wilson a shoemaker.
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Who was Elizabeth's father from the marriage certificate?
1846 marriage of Samson gives his father as Isaac occ lab and address as 30 Avon St
Elizabeth has no address given her father is John Wilson occ Shoemaker
looking for baptism of Samson I found this
Baptism Walcot St Swithin Wilts
Mary Milsom born 1806 baptised 30 Nov 1825
daughter of Isaac and Hannah Milsom
address 43 Avon St
father's occ labourer
so Mary was baptised as an adult - and address was 43 Avon St - Samson was living at 30 Avon St at time of marriage
could mary be Samson's sister??
Suz
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Elizabeth baptised in st Johns, Newfoundland, Canada
Parents John and Ellen Wilson. John is a drummer in the military.
7 Jan 1827.
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1841 census Avon street
Henry Milsom 30 lab
Hannah 25
Maryann 13
Abraham 7
Isaac 5
Samuel 20 pipe maker
All born in the county
Jennifer
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Something doesnt add up here;
Burial;
ISAAC Milsom
27 Sep 1828, Poorhouse Burial Ground, Bath, Somerset
Age 55
Burial person abode, Dispensary
Register note, St James
This is likely;
HANNAH Milsom buried 20 Jan 1828, St Swithin, Bathford
Age 69
Burial person abode, Avon Street; Bath
Maybe Samson lied and he is the illeg Son of one of Isaac/Hannahs daughters?
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Wow....I was just looking for her...and by coincidence...that's where my Father was born :D
Carol
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Did Samson & Elizabeth name a child Isaac?
MILSOM, ISAAC mmn WILSON
1858 M Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 727
Isaac Milsom Age: 5 months
Burial 20 Aug 1858 Burial Place: Walcot St Swithin, Somerset
abode 4 New Court
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This is likely;
HANNAH Milsom buried 20 Jan 1828, St Swithin, Bathford
Age 69
Burial person abode, Avon Street; Bath
there's also this burial
Hannah Milsom Age: 60
Burial 27 Sep 1832 Walcot St Swithin, Somerset
abode 51 Avon Street
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First child I have found is John born 1848, died July 1859
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Henry and Hannah Milsom Baptise ISAAC 03 Feb 1836 , address 45 Avon St
All my info from FreeREG.
Worried about Hannah buried 1828 age 69, maybe age is out?
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Aah that looks better for a burial Ladyhawke :)
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I have been looking for Samson and Elizabeth in 1851 with no luck. Checking the children from 1861, not all born in Bath. Hannah born Dursley reg district and Samson westbury on trym.
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Mmm... there are also these baptisms
Hannah Milsom
Baptism 16 Jan 1831 Walcot St Swithin, Somerset
Parents Henry occ labourer & Hannah
Abode 66 Avon Street
Henry Milsom
Baptism 14 Feb 1840 Walcot St Swithin, Somerset
Parents Henry occ labourer & Hannah
Abode 66 Avon Street
and this death
Hannah Milsom age 13 months
Burial 31 Jan 1832 Walcot St Swithin, Somerse
abode 66 Avon Street
details from Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914
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Bapt of Henry Milsom 12 Nov 1827 No 9 New Court Avon Street parents Isaac (lab) & Hannah born 1807
Possible marriage in Bristol 1796 Isaac Milsom to Hannah Burchell
Isaac Milsom bapt 02 Sep 1798, Bristol, Gloucester, same parents.
Another possible child is Sarah bapt 10 April 1800, Walcot, same named parents
Cas
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I have been looking for Samson and Elizabeth in 1851 with no luck. Checking the children from 1861, not all born in Bath. Hannah born Dursley reg district and Samson westbury on trym.
There's this Samson Milsome a lodger at Church Lane, Wiltshire
1851 census HO107; Piece: 1835; Folio: 366; Page: 55
his age 35 born Bath Somerset occupation ? pipe maker
1861 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7NT-TW3
Sampson Milsom 46 umbrella maker, Elizabeth, Hannah, William, Sampson, George, Res New Court
1871 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFJ1-264
Samson Milsom 55, hawker , Elizabeth, Hannah, William, Samson, George, Elizabeth
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I saw that 1851 for Samson too . If I remember correctly it has him as unmarried ??
There is an Elizabeth Milson, married, in the household of Mary in Bristol st phillips. There are two DILs in the household plus her son and three grandchildren. One is John age 2 that would fit with the bath birth with mmn Wilson.
HO107/1954/360 p 46
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I saw that 1851 for Samson too . If I remember correctly it has him as unmarried ??
Yes he is noted as 'U'
First child I have found is John born 1848, died July 1859
I'd forgotten you had found a first child
There are these baptisms and give father Samson's occ as pipe maker,
so perhaps that is him on 1851 census but not living with Elizabeth
Sarah Milsom
Baptism 5 Apr 1850 Bath Holy Trinity, Somerset, England
Father: Sampson Milsom occ pipe maker mother Elizabeth
abode Lamb's Court
George Milsom
Baptism 27 Jan 1860 Bath Holy Trinity, Somerset,
Father: Sampson Milsom occ pipe maker mother Elizabeth
abode 6 New Court Avon St
Susan Elisabeth Milsom
Baptism 3 Mar 1865 Bath Holy Trinity, Somerset, England
Father: Samson Milsom occ pipe maker Mother: Elisabeth
abode 16 Avon Street
And this one
father Samson occ Umbrella maker, mother Elizabeth abode 62 Avon Street
Eleanor Milsom Baptism 5 Apr 1867Bath Holy Trinity, Somerset
Edit GRO indexes birth entries mmn WILSON
MILSOM, SARAH 1850 J Quarter in BATH Volume 11 Page 21
MILSOM, GEORGE 1860 M Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 772
MILSOM, SUSAN ELIZABETH 1865 M Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 771
MILSOM, ELLEN 1867 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 711
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Did Sarah die young as she doesn’t appear on a census that I can see?
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Wow! I can’t thank everyone enough for your amazing support! Very much appreciated.