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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: up2you2 on Thursday 22 February 18 12:51 GMT (UK)
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George Albert Kitchen 1882-1963 and Mary Spearing 1882-1957 of Batteaux, Simcoe, Ontario had six children, three of them I cannot account for:
Frank Kitchen
Irene Kitchen married to Gordon Fisher
Albert G S Kitchen 1911-
I would be most grateful if someone could shed some light on them please.
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Lots of anc trees -
From anc tree - Albert George Kitchen - 8 January 1911 - 8 November 1964 (no source)
married Ivy, Beatrice Bright (with photograph) - born 23 September 1912 - Shoreditch, London passed away 21 October 1994 - Barrie, Ontario.
Marriage 15 June 1938 - Collingwood Ontario.
Might help if you could locate obituaries for Albert or his brothers
Sandra
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No mention of children in cemetery where parents are buried. George and Mary Kitchen
FIND A GRAVE
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162110665
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/162110734/mary-kitchen
Sandra
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Thank you for your replies.
Frank was married to Ivy, and retired 1979 in Saulte Ste. Marie - I don't know in Canada or across the border in Michigan.
Still trying to access his parents obituaries:
Walter J. Kitchen died 10th December 1997
Lois I. (nee Peacock) Kitchen died 11 November 2002
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Noticed the FIND A GRAVE and GENEOFUN Ontario had entries for Walter J Kitchen and Lois
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175763890
There is an anc tree which shows Donna I Kitchen as a daughter of Walter and Lois - anc tree shows a birth 1940 for Donna
Donna I Kitchen - Stayner Union Cemetery 7661 Hwy 26 , Stayner, Nottawasaga Township (Concession 3, Part Lot 27) Simcoe County, Ontario.
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/506013
Also an entry for a Robert P Cameron who might have been the husband of Donna ???
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/506014?PHPSESSID=2f30908d42e45066b1e9d3a3a5bc1d33
Canada Voters List 1968 - shows Walter Kitchen (farmer) Mrs Lois Kitchen and Donna Kitchen - RR1 Stayner - Simcoe
There is also a June B Kitchen - 1926 - 1995 same concession and lot ???
Stayner Union Cemetery 7661 Hwy 26 , Stayner, Nottawasaga Township (Concession 3, Part Lot 27) Simcoe County, Ontario.
Same concession and lot for Lillian May Ewing Kitchen - 1907 - 1985 and Harold E Kitchen 1902 - 1986
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/507142?PHPSESSID=2f30908d42e45066b1e9d3a3a5bc1d33
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/507143?PHPSESSID=2f30908d42e45066b1e9d3a3a5bc1d33
Sandra
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Again thank you for all of this.
Between my Tree Manager (childhood friend) we had also seen these links, and are already up on my half sister's tree.
It is really just Frank and Ivy Kitchen, Irene Kitchen married to Gordon Fisher, and Albert G S Kitchen 1911- that we have really just drawn a blank.
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I understand where you have drawn a blank. You might have seen the links and have other information, we do not, we haven't got psychic powers and have to look at the bigger picture which includes other members of the family to see if they may unravel any clues.
You say Irene Kitchen married Gordon Fisher - when, where and what year ? Did Gordon have any other middle names ?
Sandra
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Sorry, that is all the information we have on Gordon Fisher - no middle name.
I have contacted all of these distant relatives on Facebook, but without any success.
I also tried to find Frank and Ivy in Saulte Ste. Marie, both sides of the border, but again not lucky.
David
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C. Frank Kitchen's obituary is in the Toronto Star, May 22 1995, page D11.
He died May 21 1995 at Ross Memorial Hospital in Lindsay. He had lived in Bobcaygeon. He was in his 76th year. Husband of Ivy (Woodridge). Husband Father of P and his wife C of Hawkestone, D and her husband D Barkey and D and his wife B, all of Fenelon Falls. 8 grandchildren are named. Brother of Walter Kitchen of Stayner, Clifford Kitchen of Feversham, Betty Eaton of Waterloo, and predeceased by Albert Kitchen. No mention of where he is buried, but the funeral service was in Fenelon Falls.
RK
Edited...sorry, meant to say Father of P and his wife C etc. Oops :P
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Fabulous result - well done RK - just what the poster wanted. ;)
Sandra
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Fenelon Falls and Bobcaygeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4B_2O_aobE
Sandra
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Don't know if he is yours, but in the 1963 Voters list for Simcoe North, there is an Albert George Kitchen, garage operator, with Ivy Beatrice Kitchen, housewife. There is one more Kitchen living there, possible a living son, so giving initials only, A. D. Kitchen, mechanic.
Address was 178 Essa Rd.
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Thanks Sandra ;D
You posted some dates for Albert G and Ivy Kitchen back in Reply 1. Perhaps up2you2 could contact the Barrie Public library to see if they have any obituaries for Albert and Ivy around these dates.
https://www.barrielibrary.ca/
The address bbart found is in Barrie.
RK
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The OGS (Simcoe County Branch) Settlers database has an Albert and Ivy Kitchen buried in Barrie Union Cemetery.
https://simcoe.ogs.on.ca/online-settlers-database/
There is also an Albert Dale Kitchen buried in the same cemetery (in case this is the A D Kitchen found by bbart)
RK
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The OGS (Simcoe County Branch) Settlers database has an Albert and Ivy Kitchen buried in Barrie Union Cemetery.
https://simcoe.ogs.on.ca/online-settlers-database/
There is also an Albert Dale Kitchen buried in the same cemetery (in case this is the A D Kitchen found by bbart)
RK
That's the same name as the voter's list. :)
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You might have this information already.... ???
Elizabeth Caroline Kitchen Eaton (1921-2000) is buried in Woodland Cemetery, Kitchener/Waterloo. Do you have her obituary? It could give some information about her siblings.
RK
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It looks like Ivy Bright arrived in Canada in 1924 at age 11, a British Home Child.
Library and Archives Canada has theses records apparently connected to Ivy.....
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/list.aspx?Surname=Bright&GivenName=Ivy&
This one in particular appears to connect her to the Kitchens.....
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=204541
PB
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What a wonderful result - first class to all concerned here, especially RunKitty can't thank you enough.
My late reply is down to the time difference of Phuket in Thailand.
Yes I did find Elizabeth Caroline Kitchen Eaton (1921-2000) obituary, unfortunately nobody came back to me with any leads.
I will now try to get Albert and Ivy's obituaries from the Barrie Public library.
Also a DOD of Albert Dale Kitchen from the Barrie Union Cemetery, then again hopefully his obituary.
In this cemetery there are other Kitchens:
Margaret Kitchen Cutten 1926-24th July 2016
M. Allison Gardner 1940-1999 wife of Albert Dale Kitchen
Stuart G. Kitchen 1919-1986 and Margaret 1925-
What a powerful medium this is.
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Obituary Margaret Kitchen Cutten 1926-24th July 2016 (with photograph)
https://www.adamsfuneralhome.ca/obituaries/margaret-cutten-kitchen/29180/
Sandra
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Obituary Published in the Toronto Star on Jan. 21, 2009
Bruce Gordon Kitchen passed away on January 19, 2009 at Southlake Regional Health Centre
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=123096253
Sandra
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I have made a lot of progress on this family, especially Clifford L Kitchen 1927-2003.
Finally ascertaining his date of death, I have now got his obituary.
All present and correct except for one new entry a sister - Ruth Kitchen.
Now what is so maddening about this is I'm sure I came across a Ruth Kitchen before, but I cannot find her.
Her date of birth could be anywhere from 1900 to 1930.
Her parents lived in Batteaux, Simcoe.
Two of the offspring have also eluded me to date, so any further details would be greatly appreciated:
Albert Dale Kitchen 1940- (not in his parents cemetery)
Donna I Kitchen who married Robert P Cameron
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Hi there...
It looks like *Sandra* posted burial info about Donna I Kitchen and Robert P Cameron back in reply #4.
And RunKitty posted info about the possible burial of Albert Dale Kitchen back in reply #13.
Were you able to follow this info up?
PB
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Hi there...
It looks like *Sandra* posted burial info about Donna I Kitchen and Robert P Cameron back in reply #4.
And RunKitty posted info about the possible burial of Albert Dale Kitchen back in reply #13.
Were you able to follow this info up?
Point taken.
Donna I Kitchen - Stayner Union Cemetery 7661 Hwy 26 , Stayner, Nottawasaga Township (Concession 3, Part Lot 27) Simcoe County, Ontario.
http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/506013
Also an entry for a Robert P Cameron who might have been the husband of Donna ???
They are inscribed on the headstone, but no dates.
I had assumed that they might be still alive, alternatively I can ask the cemetery concerned to clarify.
Regarding Albert Dale Kitchen 1940-, however this cemetery has confirmed to me that he is not there.
PB
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How odd ???.
With no dates on that tombstone, I also wonder if that means the 2 might still be alive?
And Albert Dale is on the list of burials for Barrie Union in 2 different websites....
http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php
https://simcoe.ogs.on.ca/online-settlers-database/
I wonder whether he might also still be alive and it is just his name on a tombstone with no dates yet? Given his birth year this is surely possible?
PB
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Albert Dale Kitchen also went under Dale Kitchen - you may be aware that the Kitchen family operated Kitchen Motors at 178 Essa Road. Barrie Ontario.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m38/
Sandra
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Albert Dale Kitchen also went under Dale Kitchen - you may be aware that the Kitchen family operated Kitchen Motors at 178 Essa Road. Barrie Ontario.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01m38/
Sandra
Yes evidence from last year that he could well be still alive.
Amazing having all these names inscribed on headstones.
Maybe because they felt others wouldn't, or they got some kind of discount.
Or that in time such services would cost a lot more.
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All done and dusted, took a while, tremendous sense of achievement, over coming what I thought originally would be impossible.
Just goes to show that where there is a will there's a way.
Sure it takes time, but I got the satisfaction in knowing that I was the first to document all concerned.