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Title: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: NormanE on Friday 23 February 18 11:19 GMT (UK)
There is some uncertainty about who the bride for Fredrick Udale was when he married at St Mary's Wirksworth Derbyshire on 24 December 1893.
It might help with the problem if there was a newspaper report of the marriage.
Please could someone advise me on what newspaper covered the area at the time and hopefully if there is an archive?
NormaE
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 23 February 18 11:23 GMT (UK)
Derbyshire marriage index says it was Caroline Davis
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 23 February 18 11:24 GMT (UK)
Have you tried contacting Derbyshire Record Office, or possibly Wirksworth Library  :-\
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 23 February 18 11:28 GMT (UK)
I see what you mean, another entry has  ::)

Caroline Yeomans Davis -  father   Joseph Emery
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 23 February 18 11:30 GMT (UK)
Freereg has the marriage

St Mary Wirksworth
24 Dec 1893
Frederick UDALE
 age   19 -    Bachelor
Groom parish   Wirksworth
Occupation   Engine Driver

Caroline  DAVIS
age   19 -    Spinster
Bride parish   Wirksworth

Grooms  father    Alfred UDALE occ    Labourer
Brides  father    Joseph EMERY occ Bootmaker

Witnesses   
Charles HANSON
Sarah UDALE
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: NormanE on Friday 23 February 18 11:32 GMT (UK)
From NormanE
I have the wedding certificate in front of me which was amended locally in 1897 to Caroline Davis ,
The original certificate is entered as Annie Yeomans Davis  and is signed as Annie Newmans Davis.
I hoped a newspaper angle my give clues as to the relatives of the bride.
NormanE
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: avm228 on Friday 23 February 18 11:43 GMT (UK)
To put people in the picture there’s a whole other thread about this very curious marriage entry and the wholesale amendments made, regarding the identity of the bride and her father, some considerable time later:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=788088.0

The parish register image, showing the amendments made in 1897, is available on Ancestry.
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: heywood on Friday 23 February 18 12:34 GMT (UK)
From NormanE
I have the wedding certificate in front of me which was amended locally in 1897 to Caroline Davis ,
The original certificate is entered as Annie Yeomans Davis  and is signed as Annie Newmans Davis.
I hoped a newspaper angle my give clues as to the relatives of the bride.
NormanE

Hi NormanE,

If you have the civil certificate now, please would you post the information on the other thread. I wrote on there re the likelihood of a newspaper report - or unlikelihood, I suppose  :).

You could perhaps try here https://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/local_studies/local_studies_libraries/local_libraries/belper/default.asp

Heywood
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: NormanE on Friday 23 February 18 16:14 GMT (UK)
From NormanE
All I wanted to know and still want to know if there was a local newspaper reporting on Wirksworth Derbyshire affairs in 1893. If so are there copies available?
NormanE
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 23 February 18 16:23 GMT (UK)
Have you tried contacting Derbyshire Record Office, or possibly Wirksworth Library  :-\

As I suggested - contact the Records Office or Wirksworth Library. 
Title: Re: 1893 Marriage of Frederick Udale at Wirksworth
Post by: heywood on Friday 23 February 18 18:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Norman,
On the previous thread, I suggested two sites which carry Derbyshire papers and include reports for this family. If there was a marriage report, it would likely show there.
Have you tried those sites? I didn’t search with Davis - just Udale/Udall.

Find My Past and British Newspaper Archives show some reports from Derbyshire newspapers.
 They are both subscription sites.
Indexes show snippets which can sometimes help.
1893 indicates the inquest on the  ‘strange death of a child’ infant daughter or Alfred.
1895 Henry Udale, a youth, charged with an offence under the Vagrancy Act - gaming on a public footpath.

I wouldn’t think there would be a marriage report really but you can try.

Heywood