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Title: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 23 February 18 14:11 GMT (UK)
 
This info came  from a letter written in Australia many years ago, can anyone help  with the names of J B Litherland and his wife.  I have no idea of the area.
Male  first names unknown except initials. J B Litherland  probably  born England  married unknown and   they had no children.   He died and she later married James Howard.
James Howard was a friend of J B Litherland and they came to this country together 
James Howard had 3 sons , the eldest died 11 Oct 1960 aged 71. ( b c  1889 )
He had the name either " Litherland Howard" or  "unknown   Litherland Howard."

I have found this but don`t have full access.
Australia marriage index .   
James Howard married Sarah Jane Litherland.
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: MaureeninNY on Friday 23 February 18 14:42 GMT (UK)
England and Wales National Probate Calendar
Joseph Bostock LITHERLAND of Barkly St Carlton colony of Victoria publican died 30 August 1887.

Wife is later named as Sarah Jane HOWARD wife of James HOWARD.

Maureen
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: jorose on Friday 23 February 18 14:46 GMT (UK)
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj
Joseph Bostock Litherland married Sarah Jane Langdon in 1882
Died in 1887
Sarah Jane Litherland married James Howard, 1888.
Sarah Jane Howard, daughter of Frederick Augustus Langdon and Chtte(??) Ferguson, died 1927

There are a few children:
births/deaths Victoria:
Leah Isabel Howard, 1895
Fredk Leah Howard, 1898 (died 1942)
James Joseph Howard, died 1951 (aged 60)
Robert William Litherland Howard, died 1960 (aged 71, says born Sydney)
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 23 February 18 14:50 GMT (UK)
Wonderful,  thank you so much. That's a great start.
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: Galium on Friday 23 February 18 16:28 GMT (UK)
Memorial for Sarah Jane, James and children:

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Sarah-Jane-Howard/15920117

Death notice for James Howard:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lmt/
Victoria deaths
James Howard
Aged:    38
Died    1896
Father's name    Howard James
Mother's name    Ibella Adwin
Death place:    Prahran
State:    Victoria

Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: matthewj64 on Friday 23 February 18 18:10 GMT (UK)
Litherland - Langdon. On Wednesday, 23rd August, at the Wesleyan Parsonage, Carlton, Joseph Bostock Litherland, of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, to Sarah Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. Frederick Langdon, of Castlemaine.

1882 'Family Notices', The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954), 26 August, p. 1. , viewed 24 Feb 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article198560418

add- Frederick Augustus Langdon and Charlotte Ferguson married 1861 Vic reg 2558
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: MaureeninNY on Friday 23 February 18 18:14 GMT (UK)
Age is a little out but I think this is his birth:
HOWARD, JAMES       mmn HADWIN 
 1860  S Quarter in LANCASTER  Volume 08E  Page 552

Parents marriage is on LancsOPC:
1 Sep 1850 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
James Howard - Full age, Labourer, Bachelor, Poulton le Sands
Isabella Hadwin - (X), Minor, Spinster, Poulton le Sands

Maureen
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 23 February 18 18:52 GMT (UK)
Litherland - Langdon. On Wednesday, 23rd August, at the Wesleyan Parsonage, Carlton, Joseph Bostock Litherland, of Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England, to Sarah Jane, eldest daughter of Mr. Frederick Langdon, of Castlemaine.

1882 'Family Notices', The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954), 26 August, p. 1. , viewed 24 Feb 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article198560418

add- Frederick Augustus Langdon and Charlotte Ferguson married 1861 Vic reg 2558

Thanks, this confirms the JBL I found with parents in1861 is the right one. 1871 he is on a ship in Wales, not found in 1881 but could already be in Australia.


Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: MaureeninNY on Friday 23 February 18 19:16 GMT (UK)
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
   Joseph Litherland age 23

Arrival:   Sydney, New South Wales
Arrival Date:   18 Oct 1878
Vessel Name:   William Duthrie
Origin Location:   Ashby

I think it says AB next to his name. Able seaman? :-\

Maureen
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 23 February 18 19:29 GMT (UK)
That seems to be him .
I found James Howard in 1861 with James and Bella,  in Poulton,  but  none of them after then.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: matthewj64 on Friday 23 February 18 21:11 GMT (UK)
Litherland - On the 30th inst. at Williamstown, on board the s.s.Orizaba, Joseph Bostock Litherland, aged 32.

1887 'Family Notices', The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), 31 August, p. 1. , viewed 24 Feb 2018, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article7940320
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: wilcoxon on Friday 23 February 18 22:15 GMT (UK)
That's interesting,  so he might have still been a seaman when he died.
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 24 February 18 11:48 GMT (UK)
He wasn't a seaman, his probate states he was a publican, I wonder why probate was dealt with London. 
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: MaureeninNY on Saturday 24 February 18 13:07 GMT (UK)
wilcoxon  :)


"This info came  from a letter written in Australia many years ago"
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If you don't mind - just tell us what is it that you want to know and why?

Please and thanks,
Maureen
Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: wilcoxon on Saturday 24 February 18 13:55 GMT (UK)
I am researching the Litherland family of Lancashire ,  one of whom went to Australia. The letter page  is in the possession of one of that family still there  and was found after the death of someone who was known to have been interested in the FH.   
 Only one page exists  (2) and there are  no other details. It`s known that the person who sent it  many years ago is a descendant of  James Howard  and  it was a reply to someone  of the Lancashire family trying to find other Litherlands from England who were in Australia.   
 
 It was sent  well before the days of internet etc, so using phone books and sending letters was the only way of contact. 
We were wondering   if the JB Litherland was part of the same family as the Lancashire Litherlands.

It`s amazing that we have found so much in a short time. Thanks everyone .
Hope that answers your question.  :)




Title: Re: Seaching for James Howard from England .
Post by: MaureeninNY on Saturday 24 February 18 15:01 GMT (UK)
 :) :)
Thank you.

Maureen