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Title: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Monday 26 February 18 17:41 GMT (UK)
I wonder if anything is known of the family of Stephen and Ann Long of Kingston Deverell? Their daughter Sarah married a Robert Newton, who died at Cerne Workhouse in 1905 and then married George Foot in 1916. I don't know if she had a job?
Many thanks for any help.

Mark
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: lizdb on Monday 26 February 18 17:50 GMT (UK)
When and where have you already found Stephen and Ann? Have you got years of birth for them?  Or at least for Sarah?
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Monday 26 February 18 18:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Mark,

Would this be the Long family on the 1851 & 1861? -

Stephen Long   33 b.Kingston Deverill. Ag Lab
Ann Long   32
Emma D Long   11
John Long   7
George Long   5
James Long   2
Tom Long   7 Mo

HO107 Piece 1850 Folio 67 Page 16

1861-
Stephen Long   w 40
George Long   15
Thomas Long   10
Sarah Long   8 b. Kingston Deverill

RG 9 Piece 1324 Folio 15 Page 23

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Monday 26 February 18 18:36 GMT (UK)
1881? -

Robt. Newton   42
Sarah Newton   28 b. Kingston Deverill, Wiltshire
Geo.Wm. Newton   5
Elizth. Newton   3
Jas. Newton   1

RG11 Piece 2114 Folio 32 Page 12

Sarah's birth -

Sarah Long
q3  1853, Mere
Vol 5a Page 199
Mother's maiden name - Davey

Marriage of Sarah's parents -

Stephen Long, of full age, Labourer
9 Jan 1844, Mere, Wiltshire
Father - John Long, Labourer
Spouse - Ann Davey of full age
Spouse's father - William Davey, Labourer
Wits - William Long & William Coward

1841 for Stephen Long - HO107 Piece 1183 Folio   8 Page 11, Mere

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Monday 26 February 18 20:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your fantastic help. I wonder if there is any later info regarding Sarah Long/Newton/Foot?

Mark
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 27 February 18 10:28 GMT (UK)
Possible death record for Sarah -

Sarah Foot
Death Age - 69
q2 1923, Dorchester
Vol 5a Page 350

Burial -

Sarah Foot
Death Age - 69
Burial 30 May 1923, Mappowder, Dorset

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 27 February 18 10:44 GMT (UK)
I wonder if there are any addresses and further information regarding Robert and Sarah and their children and occupations? I had been told that he was a seaman but can find no record of him ever being at sea.

After Robert's death, I understand that she lived in Cerne Abbas. I also understand that she continued to live in her own property even after marrying George Foot, late in life (both dying in 1923). Any of her addresses would also be wonderful.

Very many thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 February 18 11:04 GMT (UK)
Is this George?

Probate index entry
George Foot of Childe Okeford Dorsetshire died 6 Dec 1923 Probate to Herbert John Foot and Sidney Austen Foot farmers

Info about Childe Okeford:
http://www.opcdorset.org/ChildOkefordFiles/ChildeOkeford.htm
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 27 February 18 11:15 GMT (UK)
In 1851, 1861, 1881 & 1901 Robert is an Agricultural Labourer.
As yet cannot see any evidence of Robert being a seaman, however have not located him in 1871.  ???

Sarah's address appears to be Plush, Dorchester, Dorset.

JJ

Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 27 February 18 11:24 GMT (UK)
1901 -

Robert Newton   65 b. Mappowder, Dorset Ag Lab
Sarah Newton   45 b. Mere, Wiltshire
James Newton   21 b. Buckland, Dorset. Shepherd on farm
Ernest Newton   19 b. Plush, Dorset. Labourer ?
Charles Newton   16 b. Buckland, Dorset. Carter on farm
Ethel Newton   14 b. Buckland, Dorset
Walter Newton   12 b. Buckland, Dorset
Thomas Newton   9 b. Mappowder, Dorset
Olive Victoria Newton   7 b. Mappowder, Dorset
Gladys Newton   5 b. Mappowder, Dorset

RG13 Piece 2005 Folio 23 Page 8, Alton Pancras, Cerne

If you search on Family Search you will see the baptisms for the Newton children

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 27 February 18 11:27 GMT (UK)
1891 -

Robert Newton   53 Ag Lab
Sarah Newton   37
George W Newton   15 b. Mappowder, Dorset. Ag Lab
Elizabeth A Newton   13 b. Mappowder, Dorset
James Newton   11
Ernest E Newton   9
Robert C Newton   6
Ethel I Newton   4
Walter Newton   1

RG12 Piece 1656 Folio 25 Page 10, Plush, Buckland Newton, Dorset

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 27 February 18 12:01 GMT (UK)
On Thomas Newton's record (1921) for his medals to be sent to his next of kin his mother's details are -

Mrs S Foot
54 Vicarage Street
Cerne Abbas
Dorchester
Dorset.

Unfortunately Thomas did not survive the war, he died of Para-thyphoid.

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 27 February 18 12:08 GMT (UK)
On another record dated 22 March 1916 for Thomas his mother (Sarah Newton) address is -

Gunville Cottage
Hermitage
Cerne
Dorset

CWGC -

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/22382/newton,-/

Thomas' date of birth - 7 June 1891

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 27 February 18 12:41 GMT (UK)
Very many thanks. Foot is quite a Dorset name and the George who died in 1923 was not my George Foot who also died in that year but at the Dorset County Hospital in Dorchester and buried in Up Cerne near Cerne Abbas. I have a small orbit for him. I can't tell which newspaper it is from but it appear not to be on the National Newspaper Archive.

Very many thanks for your very helpful info.

Mark
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 27 February 18 12:53 GMT (UK)
J Jen. I missed the info you tracked down regarding Sarah's addresses. That does help me a lot and I will visit. A big thank you. Hopefully one of the Newton relatives will see these notes as I don't have a picture of Sarah. The Cerne Abbas history group is a active society and possibly a picture outside a house in Cerne Abbas will turn up-unlikely but I can hope.
Very many thanks for all your help,

Mark
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 27 February 18 13:17 GMT (UK)
You are very welcome :)

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Sunday 01 April 18 11:58 BST (UK)
I believe that I have now discovered Robert Newton married Sarah Long in 1875 in the Dorchester area. I would love to know more and track down the certificate. Many thanks for any help.

Mark
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: JJen on Sunday 01 April 18 16:17 BST (UK)
Hi Mark,

I've not found any details of Robert Newton's marriage in 1875 with the sources available to me. Perhaps it would be advisable to put a request on the Dorset board where someone may be able to help you.

JJ
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Monday 02 April 18 20:38 BST (UK)
Thanks for trying. It does .seem a mystery where the marriage took place.  Mark
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: glenclare on Monday 02 April 18 22:26 BST (UK)
Q3 1875 in Dorchester reg district
Vol 5a page 597
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 03 April 18 08:54 BST (UK)
Very many thanks. I wonder if it is possible to find out the parish they were married without ordering a marriage certificate? Robert lived mainly in the Buckland Newton/Mappowder area.
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: glenclare on Tuesday 03 April 18 10:12 BST (UK)
If they married where Sarah was, that would be Plush.
Interestingly on the scan of the marriage registers it has page 12 and then goes to page 15. And of course 1875 is on the missing pages!!
Title: Re: Long family of Kingston Deverell
Post by: mark foot on Tuesday 03 April 18 10:32 BST (UK)
Many thanks and Plush seems a vg informed guess. Just my luck though that the pages are missing!

Thanks again, Mark

p.s. I had thought that to be a possibility, although I believe in 1871 she was in Walcot in Bath working in a penitentiary. I am intrigued how if that is the case she would have met up with her first husband Robert Newton. Her roots were in the Mere area  of Wiltshire and his around Buckland Newton working I believe as a labourer (ag).