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Title: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: jlo5616 on Sunday 04 March 18 02:21 GMT (UK)
Hello! I have been doing family tree research for roughly 20 years now, but I've never been able to break through my great-grandparents on my dad's side. I have photos from my great grandmother Sofia Drozd's family, but I know nothing about her or them. Her husband my great grandfather Prokop Oneskewicz came from what is modern day Belarus, so I am guessing they spoke the same language but not sure if it was Russian or Polish. I'm hoping someone will know the approximate date of the photo, because that will tell me if the Sofia in that photo could be my great grandmother and in knowing that I will learn if those are her parents and brother! I'd also love more opinions on what language this is, as I've been told Ruthenian or Cyrillic, and where that might mean she came from. Thank you!
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 March 18 12:39 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to RootsChat....Not sure about the fashion trends in that part of the world but the lady's shoes look 1920s. Sorry I cant help with translation but you might want to put the text part on the Recognition and Deciphering board for a wider audience.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/handwriting-deciphering-recognition/

Carol
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 04 March 18 13:59 GMT (UK)
Hi

Welcome to RootsChat

Think she has similarities to this lady Carol ? Born 1890 passed away January 1976 

Sofia “Sophie” Drozd Oneske - FIND A GRAVE

White Haven Memorial Park Pittsford, Monroe County, New York.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/28683044/on

Sandra
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 04 March 18 14:13 GMT (UK)

https://mediasvc.ancestry.com/v2/image/namespaces/60623/media/0b4ff947-c9fb-4e82-b37d-24fe2a099d39.jpg?client=Boards

Apparently this was translated as............

DROZD Dmytyr
DROZD Anna
DROZD Jan
DROZD Zofia
Posylaju tobi napamniatku jak my wyhladajim,
Sending you for remembrance how we look.

Sandra
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 March 18 14:32 GMT (UK)
Wow...nice work Sandra  8) ...yes it is the same Family isn't it  ;D
Carol
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 04 March 18 14:40 GMT (UK)
I bow to your expertise knowledge and judgement Carol but she does have similarities doesn't she.

Sandra

https://sites.google.com/site/oneskefamilytree/drozd

There is a Zofia Drozd born 1887 Austria enters the USA aged 18 years - Antwerp Belgium to New York on the Zeeland. Going to an Uncle Cawel Drozd in Forest City PA.

Hmm also Zofia Drozd - born 1892 and arrived 1911 and another same name born 1894 arrived 1912.  Not such an unusual name after all.

More photographs here.........

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lox/
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: Jool on Sunday 04 March 18 14:57 GMT (UK)
Hi all,

It looks like the Findagrave page was created by the OP (same user name).  It states Sofia's date of birth as 15 May 1890 in Austria so if the little girl in the photo is Sofia, it would have been taken mid/late 1890's - I'm no expert at photo dating but I'm not sure this photo is 1890s  :-\

Oh, nearly forgot, welcome to Rootschat jlo5616
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 March 18 15:30 GMT (UK)
It's more likely that the Mother is Sofia which would make her in her 30s and she looks very like the the lady in the first photo posted by Sandra.
Carol
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: Jool on Sunday 04 March 18 15:50 GMT (UK)
It's more likely that the Mother is Sofia which would make her in her 30s and she looks very like the the lady in the first photo posted by Sandra.
Carol

Yes Carol, that would make more sense, and as you say they do look alike.  I think the OP is thinking/hoping that the little girl is Sofia from what was said in the first post.

I'm hoping someone will know the approximate date of the photo, because that will tell me if the Sofia in that photo could be my great grandmother and in knowing that I will learn if those are her parents and brother!
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: jlo5616 on Sunday 04 March 18 22:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone!

So yes, I am the one who added Sophia Oneske on FindAGrave, and I'm also the owner of the Oneske Family Tree site that was posted. That is the Sophia I am researching.

What I do know is that Sophia is NOT the mother in that picture. My great grandmother Sophia had a single son with my great grandfather Prokop Oneskewicz.

I do have some post cards sent to my great grandmother from an Anna Strilecka, and it looks like she might write "sister" in them. So my thought is if this photo date-wise isn't correct to be Sophia as a child, it might be she had a sister named Anna and Anna named a child Sophia after her sister. However the obvious hole in this theory is that the last name on the photo for all four people is Drozd, and if Anna married she would have likely taken the last name of her husband (Strilecka I would assume). Or maybe sister was just a term of endearment and doesn't actually mean biological sister?

This stuff tortures me!!!
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 04 March 18 22:55 GMT (UK)
Odd that the lady doesn't appear to be wearing a wedding ring?
Carol
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: jlo5616 on Sunday 04 March 18 22:57 GMT (UK)
I noticed that too. I have other photos of alleged family members where they have wedding rings on (right hand, middle finger). But these people look pretty poor, wouldn't you say? Perhaps it just wasn't in the budget or wasn't important?
Title: Re: Please help me date this family photo, translation of ruthenian/cyrillic?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 05 March 18 10:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone!

So yes, I am the one who added Sophia Oneske on FindAGrave, and I'm also the owner of the Oneske Family Tree site that was posted. That is the Sophia I am researching.

What I do know is that Sophia is NOT the mother in that picture. My great grandmother Sophia had a single son with my great grandfather Prokop Oneskewicz.

I do have some post cards sent to my great grandmother from an Anna Strilecka, and it looks like she might write "sister" in them. So my thought is if this photo date-wise isn't correct to be Sophia as a child, it might be she had a sister named Anna and Anna named a child Sophia after her sister. However the obvious hole in this theory is that the last name on the photo for all four people is Drozd, and if Anna married she would have likely taken the last name of her husband (Strilecka I would assume). Or maybe sister was just a term of endearment and doesn't actually mean biological sister?

This stuff tortures me!!!

On balance, it would appear that Anna sent this to your Great Grandmother and it is of Anna and her family.

As Sandra has shown...the translation reads:

Sending you for remembrance how we look.

Carol