RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 18:43 GMT (UK)

Title: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 18:43 GMT (UK)
I have a Robert Mason b1851 in Norwich, Norfolk. Sometime between 1871 and 1881 he moved to Ford, Durham. Now more commonly known as South Hylton.
During this time he married an Elizabeth Winskill b1861 in Cox Green, Durham.
I know the family from Robert and Elizabeth onwards but I can't find Robert's parents or siblings. I have spoken to other family members who have not been able to find out about them either.
I have found a James mason b1802 and a Sarah A Mason b1813 as possible parents but they are questionable.
I would really appreciate it if someone else would be able to have a look too. Thanks
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 04 March 18 18:51 GMT (UK)
What record makes you suggest his parents are "James mason b1802 and a Sarah A Mason b1813" ?

is it a census? What other kids/family members appear in the record?

Pauline

Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 March 18 18:52 GMT (UK)
Do you have his marriage certificate - who does that give as his father?
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 March 18 18:55 GMT (UK)
Is this his birth? From the GRO

MASON, ROBERT  HERBERT  mmn   TANNER     
1851  S Quarter
NORWICH  Volume 13  Page 297
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 04 March 18 18:56 GMT (UK)
MASON, ROBERT       CROWFORD     1849  J Quarter in BLYTHING UNION  Volume 13  Page 431
MASON, ROBERT  EBAGE     LANGHAM  1849  J Quarter in NORWICH  Volume 13  Page 295
   
MASON, ROBERT       GREENACRE      1850  M Quarter in AYLSHAM  Volume 13  Page 8   Order
MASON, ROBERT       HALL      1850  J Quarter in WALSINGHAM UNION  Volume 13  Page 384   

MASON, ROBERT       LANGLEY      1851  M Quarter in DOCKING UNION  Volume 13  Page 68   
MASON, ROBERT  HENRY     HARKER     1851  M Quarter in DOWNHAM UNION  Volume 13  Page 80
   
MASON, ROBERT       DREW      1851  J Quarter in FREEBRIDGE LYNN UNION  Volume 13  Page 173
MASON, ROBERT  HERBERT     TANNER      1851 sep qtr NORWICH  Volume 13  Page 297   
MASON, ROBERT  STEPHEN     SHREEVE      1851  D Quarter in TUNSTEAD  Volume 13  Page 333
MASON, ROBERT  GEORGE     HARKER     1851  D Quarter in DOWNHAM UNION  Volume 13  Page 77   
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 March 18 19:01 GMT (UK)
I see on all censuses from 1881 onwards he is consistent about giving his place of birth as Norwich. 
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 04 March 18 19:03 GMT (UK)
Marriage:  Marriages Mar 1881   (>99%)
Mason    Robert        Sunderland    10a   723    
Morris    Lucy        Sunderland    10a   723    
Nixon    George Oakley        Sunderland    10a   723    
Winskill    Elizabeth        Sunderland    10a   723
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 19:04 GMT (UK)
I don't have a birth certificate as I'm waiting for it at the moment.
The names came from a census. I will attach it now.
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 March 18 19:07 GMT (UK)
I don't have a birth certificate as I'm waiting for it at the moment.
The names came from a census. I will attach it now.

Birth or marriage certificate? Really we are better waiting until you get the marriage certificate otherwise we could be following the wrong Robert Mason, as there are a lot (see Pauline's post) born in Norfolk in 1851.
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 19:17 GMT (UK)
His wife was Elizabeth Winskill and their children are
William b1881
Margaret b1882
Robert b1887
Alfred b1890
And Catherine. B1892
All born in ford durham.
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 March 18 19:22 GMT (UK)
Quote
I know the family from Robert and Elizabeth onwards but I can't find Robert's parents or siblings. I have spoken to other family members who have not been able to find out about them either.

I'm afraid that giving us the information about Robert and his wife and family isn't a lot of help as you want to know his parents. The only way to be sure is to get his marriage certificate and find father's name and occupation, that will help you find him in 1871 and 1861 and will give first names of both his parents. From that you should be able to find their marriage.
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 19:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks anyway. I just thought that i might get lucky.
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: PaulineJ on Sunday 04 March 18 20:18 GMT (UK)
MASON, WILLIAM       WINSKILL      1881  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 618
MASON, MARGARET       WINSKILL      1882  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 623
MASON, ROBERT  WINSKILL     WINSKILL   1883  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 534   
MASON, CATHERINE  ELIZABETH     WINSKILL   1885  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Vol 10A  Page 535
MASON, ROBERT  WINSKILL     WINSKILL  1887  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 555
MASON, ALFRED       WINSKILL      1889  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 574
MASON, THOMAS       WINSKILL     1891  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 586
MASON, CATHERINE       WINSKELL      1892  S Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 582
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 20:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks pauline i appreciate your reply.
That's found a couple for me to check out as extra siblings i didn't have.
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 20:44 GMT (UK)
Although it shows two Robert's and two Catherine's. Is it common for using names twice?
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: rainecooper on Sunday 04 March 18 20:50 GMT (UK)
Catherine Elizabeth b1885 and
Robert b1883 weren't on the census would this possibly be because of  deaths? And is that why the names were used again?
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 March 18 21:10 GMT (UK)
Catherine Elizabeth b1885 and
Robert b1883 weren't on the census would this possibly be because of  deaths? And is that why the names were used again?

Very likely. Checking FreeBMD

Births Sep 1885   
Mason    Catherine Elizabeth        Sunderland    10a   535    

Deaths Mar 1886   
Mason    Catherine    0    Sunderland    10a   318
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: groom on Sunday 04 March 18 21:12 GMT (UK)
And Robert

Births Dec 1883   
MASON    Robert Winskill        Sunderland    10a   534    

Deaths Sep 1884   
Mason    Robert Winskill    0    Sunderland    10a   319
Title: Re: Help with Robert Mason please.
Post by: Tickettyboo on Sunday 04 March 18 21:55 GMT (UK)
Although it shows two Robert's and two Catherine's. Is it common for using names twice?

oh yes, I have 3 generations where every child of the family, including siblings of the direct line called their first girl Grace Agnes. Then the poor little mite died and they had another go, some had three goes.


Boo