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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => Topic started by: sandir03 on Monday 05 March 18 06:40 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I'm trying to find any information on George H Ritchie and his family when they moved from Scotland to the USA.
George Herschell Ritchie was born about 1886 in Arbroath, Angus, Scotland. His parents were John Ritchie and Agnes Sturrock.
George married Annie Davidson in 1912 in Arbroath and went on the have 3 sons (that I know about) all born in Arbroath -
1. James Davidson Ritchie b. 1912
2. George Herschell Ritchie Jr b. 02 Feb 1914
3. Eric Herschell Ritchie b. 1917 ( I have found him mentioned as Alexander in one record)
They all migrated to USA in 1927 on Ship Name: Transylvania and I have found them in Massachusetts.
In the 1930 USA Census -
Event Place: Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts, United States
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George H Ritchie Head Male 43 Scotland Electric welder - car shapes
Annie Ritchie Wife Female 42 Scotland
James D Ritchie Son Male 17 Scotland Office boy - telephone directory Co
George H Ritchie Jr. Son Male 16 Scotland None
Alexander H Ritchie Son Male 13 Scotland None
In the 1940 USA Census -
Event Place: Ward 2, Quincy, Quincy City, Norfolk, Massachusetts, United States
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Annie Ritchie Head Female 53 Scotland Widow
James Ritchie Son Male 27 Scotland Labourer - Sidewalk project
George Ritchie Son Male 26 Scotland ?fitter - Shipyard
Eric Ritchie Son Son Male 23 Scotland Toolmaker - Shipyard
As Annie is a widow in the 1940 Census I assume George has died between 1930 and 1940 - can't find anything about him during this time.
What happened to Annie after 1940? When/where did she die?
Did any of the sons marry in the USA, have children and stay there or move to another country.
Any information on this family and their lives and occupations in the USA would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Sandi
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George Hershell Ritchie - born 2 February 1914 passed other country away July 1980 Barnstable MA.
Last Residence 02601 Hyannis, Barnstable, Massachusetts.
SSN issued Massachusetts (Before 1951)
Sandra
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Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1936/1937 - Annie D wid Geo H - h 65 Lawn Avenue. QP
Also at that same address George H, James D, and Eric
Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory 1932 - Geo H (Annie D) and James D - 82 Lawn Avenue.
Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory 1933 - Annie D (wid Geo H) and James 82 Lawn Avenue.
George died 27 January 1932
Sandra
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Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1945 - Mrs Annie D Ritchie - h 65 Edinboro Road. QP Also there Eric H - and James D
There is an entry for George H (Anna W) emp Hing - h 67 Hamden Rod Wol. (Could be George Jnr)
Sandra
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Could this be Anna W Ritchie (wife of George Ritchie Jnr) - 29 June 1918 passed away 28 December 2003 -
Last Residence 02601 Hyannis, Barnstable, Massachusetts.
SSN issued Massachusetts (Before 1951)
Sandra
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Massachusetts, Death Index, 1970-2003 - Anna W Ritchie - Barnstable - 29 January 1918 - 27 December 2003 -
Spouse George.
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Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1951/55 - Mrs Annie Ritchie - h17 Weeden Pl. Eric H (student) h 17 Weeden Pl
Sandra
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Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1963/65 - Mrs Annie Ritchie (wid of George H) h3 5 Snug Harbour CT
Sandra
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Annie Ritchie - 12 November 1888 passed away December 1971 -
Last Residence 02169 Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
Sandra
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Could this be Eric - ??? There is a death record for Eric H Ritchie - 1959 Boston Massachusetts ???
An entry for a marriage Herschell Ritchie - 1940 Quincy MA ???
MA marriages - George Herschell Ritchie - Braintree MA - 124 - Reference Number: F63.M36 v.124
Sandra
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1. James Davidson Ritchie b. 1912
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Massachusetts, Mason Membership Cards, 1733-1990 - George Herschell Ritchie - 2 February 1914 - Arbroath Scotland - resides East Braintree - Rural Lodge - Shipfitter - initiated 8 - 5 1954
passed 17-6- 1954 - raised 21-10-1954 - membership 22-11-1954 - suspended 2-11-1967
Sandra
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Eric Ritchie - 1948
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Wow Sandra and RJ137, thanks so much for all your input and help. Much appreciated. Will now have to sort it all out into chronological order and see if/where it all fits.
Do we have any ideas on what the family members did as occupations and also the sons that married - did they have any children?
Was there any reason for them living in Quincy? Was it the centre of something in the 1920's onwards.
Sandi
P.S. does anyone know when the USA 1950 Census will be available to search through?
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P.S. does anyone know when the USA 1950 Census will be available to search through?
Your very welcome - always pleased to help.
According to the "72-Year Rule," the National Archives releases census records to the general public 72 years after Census Day. As a result, the 1930 census records were released April 1, 2002, and the 1940 records were released April 2, 2012. The 1950 census records will be released in April 2022.
Sandra
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George Quincy Jnr was a shipfitter according to the 1940 US Census.
Eric was a toolmaker at shipyard. James was a labourer - sidewalk project.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9M1-Q331?i=27&cc=2000219
There father George had been an electric welder in car shop in 1930 - whilst James was an office boy for a telephone directing company.
Sandra
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It would appear George Ritchie Snr born 1886 Arbroath first landed in the USA 20 December 1922 - on the Ausonia.
Wife was Mrs George Ritchie - 41 Culloden Road Arbroath. Going to brother Thomas Ritchie, 18 Howard Avenue, East Braintree. Essex.
There is a note on the passenger manifest to day George was deaf to ordinary conversation.
Perhaps this gives you the reason why he took his family to Massachusetts.
Sandra
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Marriage -
Thomas Ritchie - Aggie Smith - 1900 - 272/1 111 - Arbroath
1901 census 24 Hamilton Green Arbroath Angus
Thomas Ritchie 23
Agnes Ritchie ??6
Agnes Ritchie 1
1910 census 493 Quincy Avenue Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
Thomas Ritchie 31 Born Scotland. Imm 1907. Labourer. Shipyard.
Agnes Ritchie 30 Born Scotland.
William Ritchie 9 Born Scotland.
Mary J Ritchie 5 Born Scotland.
Thomas Ritchie 3 Born Scotland.
Ire Ritchie 1 Born MA.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRVG-WF6?i=29&cc=1727033
Sandra
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WW1 Draft for Thoams Ritchie - born 7 November 1877
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZNV-FHD
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9BRX-9HH3?i=794&cc=1968530
WW2 Draft (known as Old Mans Draft - does not mean that he served)
https://www.newberry.org/old-mans-draft
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-67W9-FH?i=2539&cc=1861144
1920 census - Hayward Avenue Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
Thomas Ritchie 42 Born Scotland. Chipper and Corker.
Agnes T Ritchie 39 Born Scotland.
William S Ritchie18 Born Scotland.
Jennie S Ritchie 15 Born Scotland.
Thomas Ritchie 12 Born Scotland.
Ina S Ritchie 11 born MA.
John T Ritchie 8 born MA.
Owen H Ritchie 6 born MA.
Thomas Whalen 42 Boarder.
Thomas Thompson 28 Boarder.
Charles Brennan 38 Boarder.
Donald Meldiul 34 Boarder.
William Cahill 56 Boarder.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R6G-48P?i=34&cc=1488411
Sandra
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1930 census Hayward Ave Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
Thomas Ritchie 50 Boiler maker. oil Ref. Imm 1906. NA.
Agnes S Ritchie 49 Imm 1907. NA.
Thomas Ritchie 22 Fitter at Shipyard.
Ina S Ritchie 21 Assorter. Rural.
John A Ritchie 19 Garage. helper.
Owen H Ritchie 17 Messenger. Telegraph.
William G Ritchie 7 Boarder.
William Cahill 66 Boarder.
Donald Meldrum 40 Boarder
Edward Macmanus 22 Boarder.
Allan Craig 23 Boarder.
Alexander Beattis 27 Boarder.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RHQ-T7V?i=77&cc=1810731
Sandra
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1940 census Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
Thomas Ritchie 62 Chipper/Corker.
Agnes Ritchie 60
Elna Clarkin 31 Daughter. Married. NA.
Owen Ritchie 26 Chipper/Corker.
William Ritchie 16 Student.
Frances Ritchie 23 Daughter-in-law.
James Clarkers 33 Son-in-law.
Donald Meldrum 52 Lodger.
William Cahill 76 Lodger.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9M1-H3RP?i=1&cc=2000219
Thomas Ritchie Snr Oath of Allegiance - 29 March 1920 - Thomas born7 Nov 1877 - Arbroath Scotland - arrived 2 August 1906 - occupation cauker -
wife Agnes born February 1879 - lists children born up until 1914 with birth dates.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XGMQ-T23
Sandra
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William son of Thomas and Agnes - 1930 census Dr. Bowditch Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
William S Ritchie 28 Born Scotland. Natuiralized. Chipper/Shipyard.
Helga Ritchie 22 Born MA. Father Finland. Mother Sweden.
William S Ritchie1 Born MA
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RHQ-TN3?i=4&cc=1810731
Braintree, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1928 - William S (Helga Ritchie) resides 18 Bowditch EB
Same page - Thomas Ritchie (Agnes) resides 18 Haywards ve E B (1425-R)
Braintree, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1933 - William S Ritchie (Helga) Caulker res 16 Dr Bowditch E B.
Also showing are :- Thomas (Agnes) Ritchie res 18 Hayward Ave EB (1714 W)
John Ritchie (helper) Ina Ritchie (sorter) also at 18 Haywards Avenue.
1940 census Lairmount Avenue Braintree Norfolk MA - under Rilctrie on ancestry
William Rilctrie 38
Helga Rilctrie 32
William J Rilctrie 11 (now deceased - obituary reply 31)
son Rilctrie 6
daughter Rilctrie 2 (now deacesed - find a grave - see reply 32)
June Rilctrie 9 months. (now deacesed - find a grave - see reply 32)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9M1-H35M?i=29&cc=2000219
Sandra
plus reply 29/30/31/32
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son Thomas Ritchie Jnr born 1908 - Center Street Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts 1940 census
Sara Craig 74 Born Scotland. Widowed. NA.
Thomas Ritchie 33 Born Scotland. Son-in-law. Ship Fitter. NA.
Elsie Ritchie 31 Born MA.
Roland Holbrook 12Born MA. Grandson.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9M1-QCS6?i=1&cc=2000219
The 1930 census shows Elsie as Elsie Holbrook
Sarah A Craig 64
Elsie Holbrook 21 Divoced.
Roland G Holbrook 2
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRHH-JGT?i=13&cc=1810731
Sandra
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Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1945 - Thomas Roitchie Jnr - (Elsie) emp BSCo Div h 223 centre. Mrs Elsie C Ritchie died 7 December 1964 - aged 56 years.
Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1965 - Thomas Ritchie Jnr - Supv GD EB Div - h 223 centre
Mrs Elsie C Ritchie died 7 December 1964 - aged 56 years.
Sandra
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SSDI - Thomas Ritchie - 1 February 1907- passed away April 1972
Last Residence 02169 Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
SSN issued Massachusetts (Before 1951)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JPSB-ZZL
Sandra
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Ina S Ritchie born 1908 Lynn MA married James J Clarkin 15 November 1930 Portsmouth, New Hampshire. They were living with her parents Thomas and Agnes on the 1940 census (him under Clackers)
Residence 1998 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJCF-4WHQ
SSDI
Ina S. Clarkin - 1 Auguist 1908 passed away 29 March 2007
Last Residence Henniker, 03242, Merrimack, New Hampshire.
SSN issued Massachusetts - Before 1951
Sandra
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SSDI
James Clarkin born 17 December 1906 passed away September 1964
Last Residence Braintree, 02184, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
SSN issued Massachusetts - Before 1951
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JTPJ-N3B
Sandra
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John A Ritchie born 1912 Braintree to Thomas Ritchie and Agnes Smith - married Henriette Murphy
17 October 1932 - Newton, New Hampshire.
Reed Avenue Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts 1940
John Ritchie 28 Born MA. Chipper/Cauker at shipyard.
Hennietta Ritchie 26
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89M1-Q3FW?i=10&cc=2000219
Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1942 - John Ritchie (Henrietta) 31 Read Avenue Quincy, Massachusetts. emp BSCo
Full name - John Alexander Trumbull Ritchie
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Henrietta Marie Ritchie - 9 October 1913 - claim date 8 October 1974 - Disability denied - no record of type. FatherGeorge W Murphy
Mother Annie C Carney
Apr 1946 - Name listed as Henrietta Marie Ritchie - Dec 196 - : Name listed as Henrietta Marie Lange - 14 Oct 1987 - Name listed as Henrietta Marie Carney - 17 Sep 1974 - Name listed as Henrietta Marie Lange.
SSDI - Henrietta M. Lange - 9 October 1913 - passed away August 1998 -
Last Residence Braintree, 02184, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JPQF-F66
Sandra
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Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1942/1943 - Owen Ritchie (Frances) 7 Bower rd QN - emp BSCo
Owen married Quincy MA - 1939 - vol 124 Reference Number: F63.M36 v.124
Massachusetts death Index shows - Owen Ritchie - 1951 - 132/133 - Reference Number: F63.M363 v.132/133
Owen birth - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXVG-MHF
N.B. - Owen and Frances showed on the 1940 census with parents Thomas and Agnes.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9M1-H3RP?i=1&cc=2000219
Sandra
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Reply 20 shows the 1930/40 census for this family
Helga (wife of William Ritchie) 19 February 1908 - passed away 21 February 2002
Last Residence 02185 Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JB27-C4F
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZRG-JP1
Sandra
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Reply 20 refers -
SSDI
William Ritchie - 11 May 1901 Scotland passed away April 1972
Last Residence 02184 Braintree, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
SSN issued Massachusetts (Before 1951)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JB23-G3R
Sandra
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William S Ritchie - son of William and Helga.
William Smith "Bill" Ritchie, of Bixby, OK, passed away peacefully at the age of 84 on June 4, 2013. Bill was born in Braintree on December 25, 1928 to Helga and William S. Ritchie, Sr., and was the eldest of four children. etc etc.....................
with the help of https://www.whitepages.com/ you should be able to make contact with relatives if you wish.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/southofboston-ledger/obituary.aspx?pid=165521687
FIND A GRAVE
Fort Gibson National Cemetery Fort Gibson, Muskogee County, Oklahoma.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/111854149
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June Roberts (daughter of William and Helga) 8 June 1939 - 5 June 2005 -
FIND A GRAVE
Knollwood Memorial Park Canton, Norfolk County, Massachusetts.
PLOT Section Honor, Lot 330 A Grave 2
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/127042305
June Nancy Ritchie Roberts - born 8 June 1939 Roxbury Suff, Massachusetts.
Parents William S Ritchie - Mother Helga Sutherland.
SSDI gave Last Residence 74136 Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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Susan Ritchie Rector - daughter Od William S Ritchie (1929)
Susan R. Rector - 8 September 1963 passed away 27 May 2010
SSN issued Oklahoma (1980)
Sandra
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Agnes Ritchie - daughter of Thomas Ritchie and Agnes Smith born 20 January 1900 Scotland.
Agnes married James Farquhar -
1930 census Wendell Road Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
James Farquhar 28 - married at 20 years. Imm 1917 NA. Boilermaker. Shipyard.
Agnes Farquhar 30 born Scotland. Imm 1920. AL.
Thomas Farquhar 3 years and 7 months born MA.
Hugh Farquhar 22 born Scotland Brother.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RHC-N4?i=5&cc=1810731
1940 census Bower Road Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts.
James Farquhar 38
Agnes Farquhar 40
Jean L Farquhar 17
Thomas Farquhar 13
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9M1-Q39G?i=3&cc=2000219
Sandra
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Massachusetts Death Index -
Agnes S Farquhar - 20 Januray 1900 other country passed away 15 April 1991 -
Certificate: 026322
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Agnes Farquhar - 20 January 1900 - Massachusetts Naturalization Index - District of Masssachusetts, District Court - 27 Jue 1955 - residence 39 Bower Rd. Quincy - Petition 327085 - Alien Redg No - 1024011
Sandra
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Thomas Faquhar son of James Faquhar and Agnes Ritchie - 5 July 1926 - Quincy Norfolk MA - 10 August 1995 -
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Thanks so much for all your help. Not only have you given me information on George H Ritchie, wife Annie Davidson and their family in USA, you have also 'read my mind' by supplying me information on his brother Thomas, wife Agnes Smith and his family, also in the USA....this was going to be my next post!!
I now have to sort it all out and enter the information into my family tree.
Much appreciated,
Sandi
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Pleased to have helped. Hope it helps fill a few gaps.
Regards
Sandra
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Obit
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Presume Jennie is Mary Jane born Arbroath - 1905 - Couldn't find a Jennie Smith with the correct birth year - matching Thomas Naturalization birth dates.
The nearest is a death for Jennie Smith 25 February 1904 - passed away February 1970 Quincy MA.
SSN issued Massachusetts (Before 1951) ???
Sandra
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Yes Sandra, Mary Jane and Jennie are one and the same person.
Also, thanks to RJ137 for all your Newspaper articles - all helps to build a picture of these families.
Sandi
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We forgot one - William Grady Ritchie son of Thomas Ritchie and Agnes Smith born 10 April 1923 Tewksbury, Massachusetts passed away 19 June 1996 - Plymouth MA
Last Residence 02360 Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZRB-LXL
US Veterans Gravesites - Service Info. GY Sgt US Marine Corps World War II, Korea.
Burial - Blue Hill Cemetery
Sandra