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Title: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: ainslie on Monday 05 March 18 15:41 GMT (UK)
Hugh Young spent most of his life at sea but was in the Machine Gun Corps in WW1.  He lost his army discharge papers and his service records include a request for a duplicate.  I attach part of the letter showing that in 1940 he was an 'engine'  petty officer in H.M.S....
Any views on the name of his ship please?
Ainslie
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 05 March 18 16:00 GMT (UK)
It looks like Cartrel/Cartral but can't find it listed.
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 05 March 18 16:26 GMT (UK)
The first letter looks more like a P to me.
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: Mart 'n' Al on Monday 05 March 18 16:49 GMT (UK)
Mis-spelling of Kestrel?

Martin
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: S.O.B on Monday 05 March 18 16:50 GMT (UK)
possibly "Patrol" - a pathfinder class scout cruiser, but this was paid off and scrapped in the 1920s
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 05 March 18 17:25 GMT (UK)
If it's the same first letter as the address - is that Cadwyn or similar. I thought it might be most likely a misspelling of Kestrel.
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 05 March 18 17:31 GMT (UK)

H M S Patrol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Patrol_(1904)

Sorry 1940 not WW1 - my mistake

Sandra
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 05 March 18 18:26 GMT (UK)
Hmm. I wonder if the engine room crew on Kestrel nicknamed her HMS Castrol.
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: Gadget on Monday 05 March 18 19:29 GMT (UK)
It's that 3rd letter that's odd - it looks like the other r but nothing like that on the lists that I've looked at.

My cousin was a Capt in the RN but he died 2 years ago. He would have know  :'(

Gadget
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: ainslie on Tuesday 06 March 18 09:55 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all your suggestions.  I fear none is conclusive.
For what it is worth, I think his address at the time was in Colwyn Road (near Old Swan in Liverpool).
Any more ideas?
A
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: cpercival on Tuesday 06 March 18 12:39 GMT (UK)
How about HMS Petrel? A river gunboat sunk in 1941

C
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: giggsycat on Tuesday 06 March 18 17:14 GMT (UK)
Well I thought it looked like Cartmel, but that dates back to WW1 (unless there is another one!)


Giggsy  ::)
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: ainslie on Tuesday 06 March 18 17:39 GMT (UK)
Thank you.  I am tempted by 'Peterel' as she was evidently spelled, which fits better than most things I have tried.  I see she was sunk off Shanghai with loss of life and some crew captured.
I am awaiting better information on a civilian of the right name and age whose death in 1942 in Malaya is recorded by the War Graves Commission, but without any other details.  This might be a forlorn hope but I have not found another proof of death so far...
A
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: seaweed on Tuesday 06 March 18 17:46 GMT (UK)
I would go along with HMS PETEREL as being a contender.
There are a few references to her at TNA. Maybe the piece ADM358/3998 could be of interest.
If Hugh Young was serving under a T124 agreement. He would technically be a civilian.
Title: Re: Name of Royal Navy ship please
Post by: ainslie on Tuesday 06 March 18 18:22 GMT (UK)
That looks very promising, thank you.  I shall have to arrange for a viewing.
A