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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Anna99 on Wednesday 07 March 18 22:12 GMT (UK)
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Hello. I am looking for information on my great-uncle (1909 - 1968, originally from Churchdown, Glos) and his wife Violet (nee Slope d. 2002); they had no children. Specifically, my mother remembers that they used to own a cafe on Hackney Road and that is something I would like to know more about if possible? I'm guessing it would have been in the 1930s to 50s. If anyone has any information about businesses local to that area, it would be good to know - even better if someone remembers them! Thank you.
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They married in 1934 - have you looked for them on the 1939 register to see where they were living at that time?
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Good morning
Looking at the Electoral register
1935 Thomas and Violet Daniels 48 Cassland Road Hackney
They stay there until 1939.
Struggling to see them after that.
Ciderdrinker
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Thank you both - You inspired me to look at the electoral registers with more vigour and found that they had lived at 509 Hackney Road from at least 1948 - 1963. Having looked on street view, that address is in a row of shops so that is possibly where the cafe was. However, street numbers do change so my next step will be to look at maps of the area at that time to check that. Thank you again.
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his wife Violet (nee Slope d. 2002)
This is interesting!
1939 Post Office London Directory
Hackney Road
509 Slope Wm. Alfd. dining rms
1961 Post Office London Directory
Hackney Road
509 Slope Wm. Alfd. dining rms
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his wife Violet (nee Slope d. 2002)
This is interesting!
1939 Post Office London Directory
Hackney Road
509 Slope Wm. Alfd. dining rms
1961 Post Office London Directory
Hackney Road
509 Slope Wm. Alfd. dining rms
If Violet was Violet Rose Slope b 1909 with mmn Collier then this looks to be her father, who married as William Benjamin Slope 1897 Hackney to Beatrice Collier?
He was a Coffee House Keeper in 1911?
Keyboard86
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Ooh that certainly is interesting! Violet's mother was definitely Beatrice Slope - when my grandmother died, I inherited a lot of bits and pieces, including commemorative funeral cards; one of these was for a Beatrice Slope who died 16.01.55 aged 79 and was interred in Abney Park cemetery. It looks as if Thomas and Violet carried on her family business, although 'dining rooms' may have made it sound grander than it was - my mum described it as a 'greasy spoon'. I shall do some more digging. Thank you so much for these contributions. I have gone a long way to tracing my family tree and it is good now to be adding some colour and finding out about their lives - the most interesting bit :)
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William Alfred Slope of 509 Hackney Road, Bethnal Green died 26 Jan 1960. Probate to William Benjamin Slope, retired glass merchant
Beatrice Slope, wife of William Alfred, retired caterer, died 16 Jan 1955. Address 305 Chigwell Road, Chigwell. Administration to William Alfred
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??? Makes you wonder why change of middle name to Alfred if marriage was:-
William Benjamin Slope 25 occ Waiter Father Benjamin Slope occ Coffee House Keeper
Beatrice Collier 23 Father John Frederick Collier occ Sailor
17th October 1897 St Peter Hackney
Oddly a Benjamin William Slope 25 occ Coffee House Keeper Father Benjamin Slope occ Coffee House Keeper married
Ellen Foster 25
3rd August 1896 St Peter Hackney?
Benjamin William Slope was the elder brother of William Benjamin Slope!
William Alfred Slope was b Sept qtr 1872 Bethnal Green v 1C page 257 mmn Barrett
His parents Benjamin and Dahlia Barrett married 5th April 1870 St John the Baptist, Shoreditch
Benjamin William Slope was b March qtr 1871 Bethnal Green 1c 342 mmn Barrett
Keyboard86
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Hmmm - either a slight lack of imagination when naming their children, or the names William and Benjamin were extremely important to them :)
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As a footnote to this, this week, I found a second cousin I didn't know I had on Ancestry; I mentioned I was researching Thomas and Violet and she scanned me the following Gazette newspaper article about Tom's funeral:
TRADERS LAST RESPECTS. Past President of Hackney and District Chamber of Commerce, Mr. Thomas Daniels, was buried at Abney Park Cemetery on Monday. The funeral, attended by a large number of Chamber of Commerce members, including several other past presidents, left the restaurant at Hackney Road, Shoreditch, where he and his wife, Vi, kept on her family tradition of over eighty years. Mr Daniels, president of the Hackney branch in 1960-61, was an active member, dealing with old people's welfare, the disabled and war pensions. He was also an official of the Kingsmead Youth Club.
The end of the story. I'm pleased to find out more about Tom and Vi - thank you all Rootschatters for your help.
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Thomas Daniels was my uncle and my grandmother's (Rose Craven née Daniels) brother. I was 10 when he died. Vi was my Aunt. She lived in a flat above their cafe on the Hackney Road until her death.
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Having had a sleepless night thinking about Auntie Vi I remembered that when Tom died she moved in to a flat down the road above a shop which has been many things over the years. I rummaged around my old address books and found her last address which was Flat B, 491 Hackney Road, Bethnal Green E2 9ED.