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Title: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Thursday 08 March 18 19:26 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help

I have a census result in Belfast showing Christy and Adelaide in 1911, with their 2 children - Chrsity and Adelaide.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Ormeau/Empress_Street/211724/

I have been able to find the birth for Adelaide - she is Catherine Adelaide and born at the address in the census.

I have also found a birth for a younger son John - born 9th May 1911.

I cannot find Christy and Adelaide's marriage or either of them in the 1901 census, I have tried searching both Ireland and England.

Their son John is baptised in St Matthews in Belfast and he married Bridie Savage in 1942.
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 08 March 18 20:44 GMT (UK)
For reference-
Catherine Adelaide Kelly born 1909- LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01595/1641269.pdf)
John McNeill Kelly born 1911- LINK (https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01532/1621144.pdf)

A Christopher Kelly, age 29, born Co. Down to keep in mind-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Dunmore/Guiness/1225433/
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Thursday 08 March 18 23:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks, I had found that Christopher Kelly, but he is still there in 1911 married to Rosena
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: libby9 on Friday 09 March 18 01:43 GMT (UK)
Possibly this family, if so, like her daughter her full name is Catherine Adelaide.

Catherine Adelaide McNeil, 1881, Jul-Aug-Sep, South Shields, 10a/686.  MMN Cocherane

1891,  RG12; Piece: 4159; Folio: 31; Page: 13
John McNeil    46, seagoing steward, born Nova Scotia
Catherine McNeil    38
James McNeil    17
Mary Ellen McNeil    14
Jane Bridget McNeil    11
Catherine A McNeil    8, South Shields
Marrie McNeil    7

I think this is them in Scotland in 1901, but Catherine Adelaide isn't with them.  I'm guessing Mary E Watson is their dau, now married.
1901, 41 West College St, Glasgow.
John Mcneil    52
Catherine Mcneil    49
Marie Mcneil    11
Mary E Watson    24
James Watson    24
Catherine A Watson    6 Mo
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Friday 09 March 18 13:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks Libby

One part of the mystery solved!

Now for Christopher Kelly

I have found a birth in August 1871 for a Christopher Kelly in Guiness, Co Down to a Christopher Kelly and Mary McCann.

This is a different Christopher to the one in Guiness in 1901, as his father is Hugh.

So I am hopeful that this is the correct Christopher!!
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Dundee on Friday 09 March 18 13:46 GMT (UK)
Have you had a look at the Scottish marriage cert - what are his parents' names?

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: libby9 on Friday 09 March 18 14:21 GMT (UK)
They married in Scotland.

MCNEIL
CATHERINE ADELA
KELLY
CHRISTOPHER
1907
644/11 266
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Friday 09 March 18 14:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much everyone

I have got the certificate and it proves that Christophers parents are Christopher Kelly and Mary McCann, so the above birth is correct!
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: libby9 on Friday 09 March 18 14:55 GMT (UK)
Great, pleased for you.
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Friday 09 March 18 15:16 GMT (UK)
For anyone interested I think I have found him on the 1901 census - In Scotland

Name
Christopher Kelly
Age
28
Estimated Birth Year
abt 1873
Relationship
Boarder
Gender
Male
Where born
Ireland
Registration Number
644/8
Registration district
Milton
Civil parish
Glasgow St George in the Fields
County
Lanarkshire
Address
18 North Woodside Road
Occupation
Foundry Labourer
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: libby9 on Friday 09 March 18 15:18 GMT (UK)
Yes, that looks like him.  It's all falling into place now, isn't it?
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 09 March 18 15:47 GMT (UK)

Now for Christopher Kelly

I have found a birth in August 1871 for a Christopher Kelly in Guiness, Co Down to a
Christopher Kelly and Mary McCann.

So I am hopeful that this is the correct Christopher!!

Not sure if you are looking for his parents marriage I'm wondering if this is the correct one
I think Mary's surname maybe wrongly transcribed and should read McCann  :-\

13 Jun 1861 Dromara, Down, Ireland
Christopher Kelly
Mary McCarr

There are also these baptism entries parents Christy/Cristy Kelly Mary McCann
from Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915 on Anc*y

Christopher bp 13 Aug 1871, Sponsors John McCann & Mary Murray

Michael bp   29 Sep 1873 Ballynahinch and Dunmore, Down, Ireland
Residence Place:   Guinness Sponsors John Kelly & M. J. Kelly

Rose Anne 10 Jun 1864 Ballynahinch and Dunmore, Down
Residence Place:   Guinness Sponsors Felix? Downey ? & Rose G(r)ibbin

Bernard 22 Oct 1866 Ballynahinch
Residence Place:   Guinness Sponsors Beríd McCormick & Mary G(r)ibbin

Mary 29 Dec 1868 Ballynahinch
Residence Place:   Guinness Sponsors John Murray & Mary Murray
Title: Re: Help finding Marriage of Christy Kelly and Adelaide McNeill c. 1907
Post by: Cwellan CoDown on Friday 09 March 18 16:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks Lady hawk!

I was indeed looking for the marriage, unfortunately it is pre 1864, so no parents names etc but the names of the children are useful.

All this was an attempt to prove someone I know is related and how they are related, but without getting further back looks like I won't know, I will keep trying though!

My gg grandfather is William Kelly (born c. 1840,residence Backaderry, Castlewellan, Co Down,  at time of marriage in 1873) and his father is John Kelly, but I haven't been able to get further than this and I was hoping tracing Kelly relatives backwards might help but it hasn't!

Time to try another route!