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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cornwall => Topic started by: garlands on Tuesday 20 March 18 15:07 GMT (UK)
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According to FreeReg and FamilySearch,
09 May 1715, Gwinear, Thomas MITCHELL m Jane (surname not recorded)
Can anyone help with the bride's surname, please? Is it likely to have been the same as the groom's?
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if it has been transcribed that way it's because no surname was recorded in the register, so no way of telling from that.
He would appear to outlive her as burial in 1757 says wife of Thomas. So possibly the burial in 1759 which would tie in with the will for Thomas Michell, yeoman of Gwinear from 1759 ref AP/M/2560 in the holdings of the Cornwall Record Office. You could try getting a copy from them to see if there's mention of in-laws.
https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/community-and-living/records-archives-and-cornish-studies/enquiry-and-copy-services/
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That is a fabulously-detailed reply, for which many thanks. I shall do as you suggest, and see what happens.
I had hoped that, as the marriage details were taken from Phillimore's Transcripts, the Parish Register might have the missing surname.
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it's not on the OPC database or FamilySearch or the transcript of Boyd's Index. I've seen registers from that period that don't record the surnames of women marrying. Annoying but not unusual.
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Thanks. I was afraid that might be the case.
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I thought I'd see how many baptisms of a 'Jane' took place in Gwinear in the 1690's to see if I could eliminate any of them. Unfortunately, there were 4 from 1690 to 1694, and I could not find a marriage for any of them.
I should also have looked for burials. I shall do that.
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Having looked at burials, I can only eliminate, fairly reliably, one of the Janes viz Jane KNEEBONE whom I believe was bap 18 Jul 1691 and buried 20 Mar 1700.
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I have sent a 'photocopy order form' to the Cornwall RO, so shall see what happens.
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she could have been baptised in a neighbouring parish. Also, check for jennifers as the names were variants.
Have you checked if all registers for that period and area have survived and have been transcribed?
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I'm looking for the offspring of Thomas and Jane to see if their names will help me with the names of the parents of Thomas and Jane. So far, I've found four, but these two records in FreeReg from Breage have me puzzled:-
31 Jan 1724/25 Elizabeth
30 Mar 1725 Eliz
My understanding of the old calendar tells me these dates are only 2 months apart. What's wrong?
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at least one other couple with the same names, Mitchell isn't unusual in the area
Thomas Mitchell married Jane Davy 6 Jan 1717 in Breage
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Thanks.
That must mean the children baptized in Breage aren't the offspring of 'my' Thomas and Jane, so their names won't lead me back.
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I have now received a copy of the Will of Thomas MICHELL who died before 30th April, 1759. It confirms that his wife's name was Jane but gives no clue as to her maiden name. It also confirms that he had a daughter Mary and reveals that she had a sister, Jane. However, in 1759, Mary's husband is David STEPHENS, not John ROW. So, did Mary marry a second time or is this not 'my' family?
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Mary Michell married David Stephens of St Ives 4 Feb 1743 in Gwinear. So could it be you've mixed 2 Thomas Michells? It's not an uncommon name in the area.
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The short answer is 'yes', but to have two marriages involving a Thomas MITCHELL and a Jane XXXX within a year and physically so close is quite a co-incidence and requires further research.
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I believe I am related to your Thomas and I know his ancestry.
Can you please supply some more information on Thomas and Jane?
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My knowledge of Thomas and Jane is strictly limited, but I can let you have what I believe I know about their descendants if you're interested.