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Title: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Tuesday 20 March 18 15:07 GMT (UK)
According to FreeReg and FamilySearch,

09 May 1715, Gwinear, Thomas MITCHELL m Jane (surname not recorded)

Can anyone help with the bride's surname, please? Is it likely to have been the same as the groom's?
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 20 March 18 15:21 GMT (UK)
if it has been transcribed that way it's because no surname was recorded in the register, so no way of telling from that.

He would appear to outlive her as burial in 1757 says wife of Thomas. So possibly the burial in 1759 which would tie in with the will for Thomas Michell, yeoman of Gwinear from 1759 ref AP/M/2560 in the holdings of the Cornwall Record Office. You could try getting a copy from them to see if there's mention of in-laws.

https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/community-and-living/records-archives-and-cornish-studies/enquiry-and-copy-services/
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Tuesday 20 March 18 18:09 GMT (UK)
That is a fabulously-detailed reply, for which many thanks. I shall do as you suggest, and see what happens.

I had hoped that, as the marriage details were taken from Phillimore's Transcripts, the Parish Register might have the missing surname.
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 20 March 18 18:54 GMT (UK)
it's not on the OPC database or FamilySearch or the transcript of Boyd's Index. I've seen registers from that period that don't record the surnames of women marrying. Annoying but not unusual.

Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Tuesday 20 March 18 19:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks. I was afraid that might be the case.
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Wednesday 21 March 18 13:15 GMT (UK)
I thought I'd see how many baptisms of a 'Jane' took place in Gwinear in the 1690's to see if I could eliminate any of them. Unfortunately, there were 4 from 1690 to 1694, and I could not find a marriage for any of them.

I should also have looked for burials. I shall do that.
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Wednesday 21 March 18 20:57 GMT (UK)
Having looked at burials, I can only eliminate, fairly reliably, one of the Janes viz Jane KNEEBONE whom I believe was bap 18 Jul 1691 and buried 20 Mar 1700.
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Thursday 22 March 18 17:07 GMT (UK)
I have sent a 'photocopy order form' to the Cornwall RO, so shall see what happens.
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: osprey on Friday 23 March 18 09:50 GMT (UK)
she could have been baptised in a neighbouring parish. Also, check for jennifers as the names were variants.

Have you checked if all registers for that period and area have survived and have been transcribed?
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Friday 23 March 18 15:08 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for the offspring of Thomas and Jane to see if their names will help me with the names of the parents of Thomas and Jane. So far, I've found four, but these two records in FreeReg from Breage have me puzzled:-

31 Jan 1724/25   Elizabeth
30 Mar 1725       Eliz

My understanding of the old calendar tells me these dates are only 2 months apart. What's wrong?
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: osprey on Friday 23 March 18 15:46 GMT (UK)
at least one other couple with the same names, Mitchell isn't unusual in the area

Thomas Mitchell married Jane Davy 6 Jan 1717 in Breage
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Friday 23 March 18 17:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks.

That must mean the children baptized in Breage aren't the offspring of 'my' Thomas and Jane, so their names won't lead me back.
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Saturday 14 April 18 18:16 BST (UK)
I have now received a copy of the Will of Thomas MICHELL who died before 30th April, 1759. It confirms that his wife's name was Jane but gives no clue as to her maiden name. It also confirms that he had a daughter Mary and reveals that she had a sister, Jane. However, in 1759, Mary's husband is David STEPHENS, not John ROW. So, did Mary marry a second time or is this not 'my' family?
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: osprey on Saturday 14 April 18 21:12 BST (UK)
Mary Michell married David Stephens of St Ives 4 Feb 1743 in Gwinear. So could it be you've mixed 2 Thomas Michells? It's not an uncommon name in the area.

 :-\
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Sunday 15 April 18 15:34 BST (UK)
The short answer is 'yes', but to have two marriages involving a Thomas MITCHELL and a Jane XXXX within a year and physically so close is quite a co-incidence and requires further research.
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: BradMajors on Saturday 23 June 18 03:33 BST (UK)
I believe I am related to your Thomas and I know his ancestry. 

Can you please supply some more information on Thomas and Jane?
Title: Re: Thomas Mitchell
Post by: garlands on Tuesday 03 July 18 17:30 BST (UK)
My knowledge of Thomas and Jane is strictly limited, but I can let you have what I believe I know about their descendants if you're interested.