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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Shiny1 on Friday 30 March 18 14:59 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I'm hoping someone might be able to help trace my great grandfather and two of his son's.
George Beck was born in 1875 and died in 1961 in North Shields. His wife Grace died in 1920 and I'm told after that he lived with lived with his two son's William Smith Beck and John Beck (neither son married).
In 1931 his daughter, Mary Newsom Davidson Beck's marriage register entry has his address as 24 Linskill Street, North Shields and his profession is a "Holder Up".
I'm trying to George, William or John on the 1939 register but can't find any of them. I have searched by name and looked at Linskill Street with no luck.
I know I can't ask for a copy of the register but if anyone can find them and tell me what to search on to find them I'd really appreciate the help.
Thanks a lot,
Michael
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Could the sons have been young enough to be in the armed services in which case they would not be on the register :-\
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Hi Rosie,
I know John joined up, I'm not sure about William.
It explains not finding the boys but not George.
Thanks,
Michael
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Do you have birth years for William and John please?
Boo
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Hi Boo,
Thomas was born in 1910 and William was born in 1901 both in North Shields.
Michael
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:-) was the other son Thomas or John - or were there 3 sons?
Boo
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An option would be to search using the surname DECK
D and B often mistrancribed
Boo
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Possibly 3 sons :-\
BECK, WILLIAM SMITH mmn SMITH
1901 Sept Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 238
BECK, GEORGE mmn SMITH
1907 Sept Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 273
BECK, THOMAS FREDERICK KNOX mmn SMITH
1910 Sept Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 239
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I think you should try Boo's suggestion of surname Deck :-\
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Hi All,
Thanks Rosie, that's them.
Boo, I'll try swapping the letters round, see what that finds.
There were 8 kids in all:
William Smith (b 1901),
Margaret (b 1904),
Mary Newsom Davidson (b 1907),
George (b 1907),
Thomas Frederick Knock / Knox (b 1910),
John (b 1913),
James Strothard (b 1915)
Matthew (b 1917)
Thanks again,
Michael
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Boo, I'll try swapping the letters round, see what that finds.
Yes a free search will bring up a family called DECK, doing a few searches using the first names of William S , George and John, specifying Tynemouth CB should get a definite possible for these people. Think the transcription may well have been a Friday afternoon just before home time one :-)
Boo
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Thanks a lot, I'm down at the fish quay getting my fish bit I'll have a look when I get home.
Thank you all so much.
Happy Easter.
Michael
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Think the transcription may well have been a Friday afternoon just before home time one :-)
Perhaps the writing of the surname on the original was too ornate ;D
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Hi Michael,
You have probably already tried this - but have you looked in the A-Z files at North Shields local studies? These folders hold a lot of information about local people and it may be worth a try if you have not looked at these already.
Unfortunately, North Tyneside libraries are closed until Tuesday.
Happy Easter!
Best Wishes :)
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Thanks a lot, it's been a while since I looked through them, I'll have a try next time I can get down there, work keeps getting in the way.
I went this morning to have a look, I hadn't realised it was closed today.
I think the two boys probably did join up, it would be nice to know one way or the other.
Michael
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You may have to look for him under Beck after all - F M P have been very quick with an error report and amended it from Deck ;D
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Wow, that really was quick.
I hope Boo sees this, she reported it yesterday.
Thanks,
Michael
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Yes it 'was' quick, well done FindMyPast :-)
Its always worth sending in the transcription errors, they do amend them though the time before it appears depends on how many they have at any one time.
I must have sent hundreds in over the years, maybe they'll put me on the payroll :-)
Boo
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Wow, that really was quick.
I hope Boo sees this, she reported it yesterday.
Thanks,
Michael
So did I ;D
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The good thing with F M P is if they agree with you they alter it unlike Ancestry who leave it as it was and put an alternative.
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So did I ;D
Excellent, thanks a lot.
Michael
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Hi Michael,
Just to let you know there is a folder on those with the Beck family name in the North Shields local studies. :) There is quite a bit of information on various papers so I think it would be worth your while popping along when you can.
There is a typed list of Becks buried at Preston between 1883 and 1959. According to the list Grace was buried in Grave No 12793 entry no 1732 in 1920. The microfilm will give you the exact date of burial.
There is also a written notation recording that 'George Beck of Dock Hotel died in Nov. 1928 but is not in the index.'. I wonder if this might refer to someone in your tree?
There is also a handwritten tree relating to a 'Bach' family dating back to 1801 who later changed to Beck.
There is too much info to send from the folder so I would recommend your having a look when you get time to sort out what may be relevant to your research.
There are also a lot of information held in the index boxes on those with the Beck name. For example:
'BECK, Grace
31 North St Milburn Place N/S 21at inst, aged 40 years, wife of George & 2nd daughter of Wm & Mary Smith of East Howdon.'
S.D.N. 22/6/1920 p1 c1
Also, don't forget to look in the Journal & Evening Chronicle notices drawers at the local studies too as there are people with Beck names in here.
This is just to let you know that the library does hold info so it will likely be worth a visit. :)
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Thanks very much for looking, I'm hoping to get in there soon and have a proper look.
I have a few weddings to look up on the microfilm so do need to get in. I might have to bite the bullet and put in a day's holiday so I can get in for more that 30 minutes at a time.
Thanks again.
Michael
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You are welcome Michael.
If you would like, as I am here now I could help with marriage look ups - if these are not of living people of course.
Best Wishes :)
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They certainly aren't living anymore but it's ok, I want to get prints of them so I can refer back.
Thanks for the offer though,
Michael
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Yes, prints are a good idea - certainly a lot cheaper than sending off to the GRO. :)