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Title: Willans Rothwell / Hunslet
Post by: Erik Bloodaxe on Monday 02 April 18 17:31 BST (UK)
Hello dear friends

On the off chance someone can help.....

My 3 x Great Grandfather was John Gothard Willans born 9th July 1802 in Hunslet. Died 1866 Hunslet.

His father was John Willans born 1764/ 1765.

He married Sarah Gothard in St Peters Leeds 17 November 1799.

My problem is who is this John Willans?

I have two most likelys at the moment.....

John Willans whose father is William Willans born 1735 ish

Or

John Willans whose father is Valentine Willans born 1737 ish

I must admit Valentine Willans 1735 seems most likely as I believe John (1765) had a son called Valentine in 1804.

This would seem strong evidence of course if correct but I have also read that Valentine 1737 had another son John in 1774 which would not make sense !!

So its a long shot I know...... but just in case there are thousands of Willans enthusiasts out there.

Many thanks in advance

Peter Schofield
Title: Re: Willans Rothwell / Hunslet
Post by: libby9 on Thursday 05 April 18 02:18 BST (UK)
Valentine buried a son, Johan/John in 1770.

Name:   Johan Willans
Event Type:   Burial
Death Date:   abt 1770
Burial Date:   17 Jan 1770
Burial Place:   Rothwell, Holy Trinity, Yorkshire, England
Parish:   Rothwell, Holy Trinity
Father:   Valentine Willans
Title: Re: Willans Rothwell / Hunslet
Post by: libby9 on Thursday 05 April 18 03:12 BST (UK)
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His father was John Willans born 1764/ 1765.

How do you know that was his year of birth?
Title: Re: Willans Rothwell / Hunslet
Post by: libby9 on Thursday 05 April 18 03:42 BST (UK)
Has this one been considered?

Name:   John Willans
Baptism Age:   0
Birth Date:   28 Aug 1769
Baptism Date:   9 Oct 1769
Baptism Place:   Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Father:   John Willans
Title: Re: Willans Rothwell / Hunslet
Post by: Erik Bloodaxe on Sunday 08 April 18 20:31 BST (UK)
Quote from: libby9 on Thursday 05 April 18 03:12 BST (UK)
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His father was John Willans born 1764/ 1765.

How do you know that was his year of birth?

Hi libby

Thank you very much for your answer and contributions.

You concentrated my mind.

I believe i was incorrect. Or confused.

I Think it must be the one born in 1774.....29 March actually at Goslem.

And the younger John born in 1764 was the one buried in 1770.

There is a page called Willans Homynyms which confused me a little as it said the one born 1764 survived. Which doesnt make sense as it also mentioned the younger brother.

Now i just need to find out how many times he was married :-)

Regards and thanks again Peter Schofield.

Title: Re: Willans Rothwell / Hunslet
Post by: libby9 on Monday 09 April 18 00:29 BST (UK)
Valentine Willans, son of Martin,  baptised 24th Feb 1734 at All Saints, Dewsbury

Valentine Willans of Methley married Mary Wilkinson of Rothwell on 6th May 1760, Holy Trinity, Rothwell.  Witnesses: William ???? and Robert Iley.
Title: Re: Willans Rothwell / Hunslet
Post by: Erik Bloodaxe on Sunday 15 April 18 20:41 BST (UK)
Quote from: libby9 on Monday 09 April 18 00:29 BST (UK)
Valentine Willans, son of Martin,  baptised 24th Feb 1734 at All Saints, Dewsbury

Valentine Willans of Methley married Mary Wilkinson of Rothwell on 6th May 1760, Holy Trinity, Rothwell.  Witnesses: William ???? and Robert Iley.

Thanks very much.

This all looks very correct.

That is very kind of you.