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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: Macushla on Wednesday 11 April 18 15:08 BST (UK)
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Hello, all,
I'm hoping that someone with access to the 1891 census can assist me.
I have a reference for an ancestor in the 1891 census, James KERR, in the parish of St Cuthbert, Leith. His and his family's details are on page 50, schedule number 265, however, I cannot read the address - is it 106 Bonnington Road?
I'm also having trouble reading the places of birth for James and his family.
Lastly, as this is the first time I will be adding a census to my tree, I'm hoping someone can give me an example of how I should cite the details on my programme.
Hope this all makes sense and is not too much to ask.
Many thanks,
M.
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I would agree it is 106 Bonnington Rd --with several families living at that same address.
Birth places -- look like -
James - South Leith
Margaret -- Gorebridge?
James (the son) --Edinburgh (shortened)
Agnes -- South Leith.
As regards saving it to your family tree -- I am not technical but can you not simply save it onto your computer and then upload it onto your tree as a photograph (apologies if this suggestion is absolute rubbish!)
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Hi M
Are you looking at the original image?
A/try uses this reference Parish: St Cuthberts; ED: 25; Page: 50; Line: 8; Roll: CSSCT1891_365
Scotlands People use 692/2 25/ 50 as the reference which is slightly different...a matter of choice really as what you decide to use.
Monica :)
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I strongly recommend using the references from Scotland's People, because this is the source of the original documents.
The full thing would, I suppose, be "National Records of Scotland, 1891 Census, Edinburgh St Cuthberts No 692/2, Enumeration District No 25, Page 50." But I'd abbreviate it to "NRS 1981 Census 692.2/25/50" and put the full thing in a list of sources.
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Thank you so much, Pennines, MonicaL and Forfarian, I appreciate your help.
Pennines, I also thought it was Gorebridge in the birth details, thank you.
MonicaL, I have a paper copy of the original.
Many thanks to you all for the advice on the source citation; I will do as you recommend, Forfarian. And I will also attach and image to the tree, Pennines ;D
I am something of a pedant and I get stuck on things like this; now I can move forward!
Another question if I may; when entering information from a census, do you add the census address for each individual for that date? Or just for the heads of the household?
Thanks again, from Adelaide in South Australia where we have had hot summer weather in what is supposed to be our second month of autumn - 3 days of 35 degrees celcius, or 95 fahrenheit. Our garden is confused!
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Another question if I may; when entering information from a census, do you add the census address for each individual for that date? Or just for the heads of the household?
I think it's up to you.
I transcribe the census data for the whole household into the 'marriage notes' box for the parents' marriage in my program, and then I copy the address line into the individual notes box for each person listed so that I can see at a glance where they lived when, and also where there are gaps.
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Many thanks, Forfarian. I get tangled up in the detail and worry that I am going to enter information the 'wrong' way. Can't imagine what I'll be like if I decide to make a tree public!
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Don't worry. There are trees out there showing people whose children were born before they were, or long after they died; trees showing people with the wrong wives and parents; trees showing people living hundreds or even thousands of miles from where they really did live, and so on. Not forgetting trees of Norse gods and other mythical beings. As long as you avoid that sort of pitfall, and you do say where your information came from, I doubt that anyone will be fazed by the exact details of how you record them.
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Cheers and thanks, Forfarian :).
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trees showing people living hundreds or even thousands of miles from where they really did live, and so on.
Precisely!
I found one on a tree on Ancestry, not 100s of miles away, only (82 mls) but a 4 hr ferry journey (in this era) so maybe a bit less if direct (as the crow flies) back in the day, however...
She had her chidren on South Uist but was having children with another husband on the Isle of Skye too (can't remember what the overlaps were) but strangely she was always at home in every census with her Uist husband & children.
I did get in touch with the owner of the tree as I have every record available from SP & explained common sense would say no-one would be taking a boat trip to be in the same place on every census night & suggested (with my proof) the tree owner check who was in their ancestors house on census nights of each of those years but to also check her dates for births of children from SP which would give her both parents names & their marriage date/place...
Solved in an instant as she had been using transcriptions for all her info. on censuses & info. from other trees on births which were definitely wrong with kids unknow to me in my tree born on Skye overlapping my true family which was humanly impossible.
Annie