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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Beechbaby on Wednesday 18 April 18 08:13 BST (UK)
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Hi is anyone researching the DeRomes of Manchester please, my only info is Joseph De Rome b Manchester ( spelt and spaced modern day correctly) b May 1917.
Any help/info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
We are sending for full birth certificate.
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From freebmd
Birth June qtr 1917
DE ROME Joseph mothers maiden surname Morgan
Prestwich reg district 8d 480
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Also from freebmd
Marriage Sep qtr 1903
De Rome Joseph
MORGAN Henrietta
Prestwich 8d 756
You can use freebmd & the GRO index using surname and mothers maiden surname to establish any siblings
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Mother may be henrietta, b1887
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Here is Henrietta in 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1N-FZQ
And Joseph snr perhaps
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1X-217
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Thank you for your PM Beechbaby. To reply to us all just select the reply button on the bottom right of this post :)
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Thank you both . I logged on to site you suggested and it came up this is not a secure site and went off. !!
Could the marriage as you say be a Joseph senior ??
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I am not a member of family search so can't log in !! But thank you. Response is outstanding as usual on here 😁
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Signing up to Family Search is free and very useful. :)
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Thank you everyone.
Also where is the cheapest/quickest place to send for certificates these days. Please.
Thank you.
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https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Information here. You have to sign up - free.
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Thank you both . I logged on to site you suggested and it came up this is not a secure site and went off. !!
Could the marriage as you say be a Joseph senior ??
Which site was not secure :-\
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Thank you both . I logged on to site you suggested and it came up this is not a secure site and went off. !!
Could the marriage as you say be a Joseph senior ??
Yes, the marriage Rosie posted would seem to be the marriage of your Joseph’s parents - Joseph and Henrietta (from the birth registration).
This site has indexes http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk and shows that the marriage was either at the Registry Office or Registrar attended in church - were they Catholic?
There are quite a few Deromes and I think that Joseph snr can be found in censuses but you would need to get certificates to be sure.
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This may be one of yours,
1909 Manchester directory
Mrs Ann DeRome, Householder, 79 Warwick St, Hulme
Dave
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Thank you all. New bit of info if you could please help !!.........Margery Eastham b20-1-1922 mother ??? Father ???
Brother John. B ?? District ??
Sister Lillian b ?? District ??
For some reason I go on fbmd but everything comes back not found even tho there found by you lovely people !!!😧😧.
I am trying to help a friend who has only the info I have given on here and he's desperate to find his roots ( he has been told by family that they are related to the Popes guards etc etc he has high expectations with the stories he has been told) 😱. He also had a bit of a shock tonight when I showed him how many De Rome's' there were on Ancestry not his.. Thank you in advance for any help.
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The mmn could be Smith for margery and john. Cant see lillian.
Do you happen to know the married surname of the girls?
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To Heywood in reply to your question. Yes they were Catholic. Can you tel me if I use the link you gave what should I enter to find what you found please. Thank you.
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Pauline J. Sorry I don't know but I will ask him tomorrow and try and post.
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Pauline J. Margery (poss.maiden name Eastham) b 20-1-1922. D 14-12-1997. married ? To Joseph Anthony De Rome spelling and space correct by the way what does mmn stand for please on your earlier reply
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Hello again,
Go to Lancashire BMD via the link. Click on marriages and search there is a drop down for date range and then enter the name.
It looks as though the Derome/DeRome family came from Westmorland to Manchester.
In Manchester there seem to be some in Hulme/South Manchester but Joseph b 1917 and family are located in North Manchester.
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Mmn is just a convenient abbreviation of mother’s maiden name.
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Mmn is mothers maiden name.
I can tell you that margery was indexed with surname Gastham, not Eastham in the 1939 index.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW1M-4W9 1911
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Is it really Gastham, I wonder? Perhaps a later document has it wrong.
Parents look likely to be Richard Eastham and Esther Helen Smith, marr Sep qtr 1906 Salford.
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Lilian Eastham b Mar qtr 1907 Salford. Married Sep qtr 1947 Salford to Thomas E Davies.
Death reg May 2006 Lancashire as Lilian Davies, born 8 Jan 1907.
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Thank you everyone will pass info to my friend to see what he thinks.
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http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/birthsearch.php
Shows Margery Eastham b East Manchester 1922
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Hi have passed info but I was just looking and Margery Eastham b. 1922 and yet Lillian her sister you have said was born 1907 !! Big difference.
I just don't know what I'm doing wrong on Freebmd but can't seem to find anyone births or marriages 😳 will try again tomorrow.
Another "Q" was the marriage mentioned in one of the posts and asking if they were Catholic , does it show them in a church wedding ? ( can't remember whose marriage it was) apparently the DeRomes' were strict Catholics. Thanks again everyone.
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Re the Catholic question.
Lancashire BMD show marriages as Church/Registrar Office. If it is C o E it shows the church otherwise Registrar attended or Reg. office. Often this one is Catholic.
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There are several Eastham births, in various places, with mother as Smith and to be sure you would have to purchase the certificates. They may be unrelated.
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Rosie - any relation to who you are researching - it is a Catholic Baptism
Baptism: 31 Mar 1889 Brownedge St Mary, Bamber Bridge, Lancashire, England
Josephus Derome - filius Thomae Derome & Annae (formerly Cooper)
Born: 25 Mar 1889
Godparents: Rogerus Waring; Eliz. Derome
Notes: Ipse Josephus Derome die 11 Augusti 1915 matrimonium contraxit cum Cecilia
Emilia Maria Canham in Ecclesia Sti. Joannis Langelistae [sic] apud Islington London
Baptised by: Aug. Pozzi Miss. Apost.
Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1904, Page 98, Entry 489
does this say that this Joseph married Cecilia Emilia Maria Canham 11th August 1915 as well as the Baptism ?
new one on me - never seen that before
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Hi garstonite,
Yes it is a transcription of a baptism and the marriage has been noted on the register. You can see this quite often.
In fact my dad’s baptism in Ireland is annotated with my mum’s name and our local church and I found it quite lovely to read when I came across it.
The Deromes seem to be Westmorland and North Lancashire and maybe many are related- repeated names etc. I think the Joseph Beechbaby is researching is North Manchester with Westmorland and Irish roots if I have the right family.
Heywood
Heywood
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Thank you once again for all recent info and help, much appreciated (to a novice) :D