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Title: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Thursday 19 April 18 22:47 BST (UK)
Please read the following, I have had no leads now in 5 years......

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=779947.msg6341422#msg6341422

His first name may not be Dennis, I really have no clues......

Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 19 April 18 23:14 BST (UK)
Bridget's death cert at 90 in 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05505/4542371.pdf
would indicate she was born  about 1818 but the 1901 Census, assuming it's the same woman would indicate she was born about 1833
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Omagh/Mullaghmore/1746534/
so it might be worth widening the date range for both births and marriage.

The 1880 Census of America, White Plains New York, for Dennis Rabbitt and Bridget would also indicate at later birth of about 1830
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 20 April 18 07:06 BST (UK)
Bridget's death cert at 90 in 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05505/4542371.pdf
would indicate she was born  about 1818 but the 1901 Census, assuming it's the same woman would indicate she was born about 1833
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Omagh/Mullaghmore/1746534/
so it might be worth widening the date range for both births and marriage.

The 1880 Census of America, White Plains New York, for Dennis Rabbitt and Bridget would also indicate at later birth of about 1830

Thank you.
Several listings show a Bridget Rabbitt with children however her obituary pays no mention of any children but states that she spent almost 40 years in the US
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 10:12 BST (UK)
Various records have a Dennis Rabbit/t dying Manhattan, NY on 20th April 1893, aged 65.
Cert No 15027

Also, the censuses in White Plains suggest this approx age. The 1860 has him sd 35, his wife as Nancy, 45, with daughters Margaret, 6, and Bridget, 14. By 1870, he is 45,and wife is Bridget,42.

Did Nancy die and he then married Bridget or were name/ages confused?


Gadget
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 10:16 BST (UK)
This arrival seems consistent with his age on censuses.

New York 2 July 1849 on Ivanhoe from Liverpool
Dennis Rabbitt, 26, oat meal manufacture ?


Gadget
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 10:31 BST (UK)

Also this marriage but not at all sure as it doesn't tie in with the passenger list:

St Nicholas, Galway
April 1852 - ? Rabbit to a Bridget Molly or Moody ?

Page very blurred and torn.

Gadget
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 10:40 BST (UK)
Another arrival that might be considered

Arrive NY 31 March 1852 from Liverpool on City of Washington
Dennis Rabbet, aged 24, Irish.
Also, immediately below his entry: Anne Rabbit, 22.

Could Anne be Nancy?

Gadget
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 11:06 BST (UK)
New York, Alien Depositions of Intent to Become U.S. Citizens, 1825-1871 - Dennis Rabbit - dated 4 th May 1854

The immigrant  had to be a resident in the United States 5 years and a 1 year resident in the the state before becoming a citizen

Sandra

Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 11:09 BST (UK)
That one might be this one, Sandra:


This arrival seems consistent with his age on censuses.

New York 2 July 1849 on Ivanhoe from Liverpool
Dennis Rabbitt, 26, oat meal manufacture ?


Gadget
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 11:28 BST (UK)
There are a few small articles regarding a Dennis Rabbit in the White Plains NY Eastern State Journal -  being one of the overseers of the poor in White Plains Westchester - 1886 - 1889.

Also articles for Dennis Rabbit receiving payment for work on the roads in White Plains Westchester - 1886 - 1889

White Plains NY Eastern State Journal 1883-1886 -

"At an early hour Thursday morning burglars attempted to break into Lafayette
Hall, where the Catholic fair is now to progress, but were unsuccessful, being
frightened away by nightwatchman Dennis Rabbit"

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lx8/

Sandra
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 11:30 BST (UK)
For info

Another thread about Bridget here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=680211.0

Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 11:50 BST (UK)
You probably already have these - 1860 census White Plains, Westchester, New York.

Dennis Rabbitt   35 born 1825. Day Labourer.
Nancy Rabbitt   45 born Ireland.
Margarett Rabbitt 6 born NY.
Bridget Rabbitt   14 born NY.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCQT-8TH

Sandra
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 11:52 BST (UK)
1870 census White Plains, Westchester, New York.

Damis Rabbett   45 born Ireland. Real Estate $4000. Personal Estate $125.
Bridget Rabbett   42 born ireland.
Margaret Rabbett 16 born NY.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M82W-LH3

1880 census White Plains, Westchester, New York.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZNJ-KRH

Sandra
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 12:07 BST (UK)
Post just  in case this is a possible -  ??? (extracted) There is a marriage for a Margaret Rabbit in Manhattan - 3 November 1876 - to Christofar Keefe -
Certificate Number 4667.

Sandra

Added Found a little more and parents were Patrick and Elizabeth

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:249P-TYM
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 12:10 BST (UK)
To add to my info re death Reply #3

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W6H-YFR

Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 12:14 BST (UK)
The age of this Margaret Keefe 1847 does not tally with the birth date in the 1860 census but it helps to discount the marriage above to Christopher Keefe -

FIND A GRAVE

Margaret Rabbitt Keefe - 1847 County Meath, Ireland passed away 15 Sep 1902 (aged 54–55)
New York.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/86624849

Sandra
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 12:16 BST (UK)
Various records have a Dennis Rabbit/t dying Manhattan, NY on 20th April 1893, aged 65.
Cert No 15027

Also, the censuses in White Plains suggest this approx age. The 1860 has him sd 35, his wife as Nancy, 45, with daughters Margaret, 6, and Bridget, 14. By 1870, he is 45,and wife is Bridget,42.

Did Nancy die and he then married Bridget or were name/ages confused?


Gadget

Is there anything further about the Bridet aged 14 on the 1860?
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 12:18 BST (UK)
White Plains NY Eastern State Journal 1891-1894

To the Honorable, the Board of Trustees of the Village ol White Plains :
The undersigned, residents and taxpayers of White Plains village aforesaid, most respectfully
pray for the establishment of either an electric or gas lamp, at or near the property of Dennis
Rabbitt, In Rabbltt street, in said village, that said street is narrow and dark, and the electric
lights now lighting said street are so distant that between Railroad and Martine avenues
said Rabbltt street is always dark and dangerous.


Yours respectfully,
Peter Riley, Helfrlch Bromm,
Samuel Walpole, Denis Rabbitt,
Michael Gilhooly, Mrs. E. Kelly,
James Haley, Patrick Daly,

June 27th, 1892.

Sandra
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 18 12:20 BST (UK)
White Plains NY Eastern State Journal 1880-1883

Dennis Rabbitt has bought of Joseph Lye the building on Railroad avenue formerly occupied
by Mr. Germain as a candy store. He will remove the building next to his dwelling house
on Rabbitt street. It will be rented as a tenement house.

Sandra
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 20 April 18 12:55 BST (UK)
Sandra and Gadget,
I thank you both for much searching that you both have done.
It is really difficult to find anything certain.

Bridget Rabbitt is buried here in town with my wife great-grandparents, Patrick Rock and his wife Bridget (formerly McSorley). When Bridget died her obituary stated that she was the 'aunt of Bernard and James McSorley'. I would presume that she was McSorley before marriage also as she is buried direct opposite the McSorley family grave. Thats what I believe may be right.

Heres a listing that includes both Bridget Rabbitt and Mary McSorley below her......
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1518&h=14510043&tid=113743821&pid=270119659652&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Xvq4&_phstart=successSource


When Bridget returned to Ireland she was the occupant of a property owned by Patrick McSorley, her nephew.

The obituary mentioned no children, as I have stated before.
Nobody living today is able to throw any light on her as many years have passed.
I am hopeful that one day, I will get closer to the truth.

In the meantime, I am grateful.

Tony
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Sinann on Friday 20 April 18 13:20 BST (UK)
What was Patrick McSorley's mother's maiden name?
Perhaps she was an aunt from his mother's side.
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 13:22 BST (UK)
I'm assuming that you have this for her. Tony

https://tinyurl.com/y8b4negn

added - just adding it to the list but there are quite a few mentions of this name in Massachusetts  :-\
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 20 April 18 13:35 BST (UK)
What was Patrick McSorley's mother's maiden name?
Perhaps she was an aunt from his mother's side.

Sinann, that is the million dollar 'unanswered' question that goes beyond any records I can find.
My only clue, though not certain is McGurk but its not 100% certain.
Bernard, James, Bridget, Jane and Ann McSorley were born between 1847 and 1858 in Tyrone with father Patrick. I cannot find a mothers name in nay records.
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 20 April 18 13:38 BST (UK)
I'm assuming that you have this for her. Tony

https://tinyurl.com/y8b4negn

added - just adding it to the list but there are quite a few mentions of this name in Massachusetts  :-\

I am sorry, I cannot open this as I don't have worldwide membership
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 13:43 BST (UK)
Arriving NY 12 Aug 1846 on the Chaos from Liverpool

Bridget McSorley, age 21, Irish,  occ - shoemaker.
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 14:12 BST (UK)
Also here:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDX8-RGG

and another here

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVRQ-4RTM
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 20 April 18 14:55 BST (UK)
Gadget, when I click on these links it brings me to the familysearch site but nothing shows?
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 15:40 BST (UK)
You need to be signed in to FamilySearch these days, Tony.  Are you registered with them as it's free.

The links do work.
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: TonyMcGartland on Friday 20 April 18 16:02 BST (UK)
You need to be signed in to FamilySearch these days, Tony.  Are you registered with them as it's free.

The links do work.

Yes, signed in and my name shows on right of screen

Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 16:13 BST (UK)
Very odd

Trying again:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVRQ-4RTM


it should come up with this info:

Arrival 1845, New York City, ship - Stephen Whitney,  Bridget Mcsorley, 21, Ireland

It's under New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891.

There are 2 possibles - this one and the other that I mentioned.



Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 16:16 BST (UK)
The other is

12 August 1846, New York, Ship - Chaos, Liverpool.
Bridget Mcsorley, 21,Ireland,  Cordwainer or Shoemaker
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Sinann on Friday 20 April 18 16:16 BST (UK)
I was going to say..
Try the link again so, they work fine for me.

got the red warning so instead I'll say I think that 21 year old Bridget could be married to John and have a child.

Ah.. are they both 21
I mean this one
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVRQ-4RTM
Title: Re: Rabbit married possibly in USA
Post by: Gadget on Friday 20 April 18 16:19 BST (UK)
Thanks, Sinann - I've just PMed you to ask to check the links - think messages crossed.