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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Rutland => Topic started by: Gibby1968 on Saturday 23 June 18 16:56 BST (UK)
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Anyone researching the surname Rudkin from Rutland?
I am currently looking at three men from Rutland who died in WW1.
They are;
Charles Iliffe Rudkin 1883-1918
George William Rudkin 1896-1915
Henry Lovick Rudkin 1892-1917
William Rudkin 1895-1917
I have done a lot of research and have found a connection between two of the men to each other.
As I have a lot of Rudkin names in my tree I am wondering if there is a connection to me however small.
I have attempted to post this message more than once, so if it appears several times please ignore it. My internet or computer is playing up today.
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Without knowing anything about your Rudkin line it would be difficult to establish any connection. The 1901 census has 31 male entries for that surname all born and living in Rutland
Who are the 2 who are connected to each other and in what way?
Does your research show any connection between those 2 and your own Rudkin line?
Have you checked the parentage of each of the names given and if so - do they fit your family profile?
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Yes -- it will be a case of working them backwards through census records to see if they 'meet' up with your Rudkin lines at some point.
The GRO index with mother's maiden names will be useful for you also. Presumably you have researched your own lines so will be able to compare the lines of these men.
Have you recorded siblings of your direct ancestors on your own lines - if so that should help as you work them backwards also.
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I already know who the parents of each man are and I have established that two of the men are first cousins. I still need to do more work on the other two to see if they connect to these two or to me.
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I have researched each line back a few generations but as yet they do not meet in the middle apart from the two men I have just mentioned.
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FTM is just doing a sync so I'll let you know which two men are related tomorrow, thanks.
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Not in Rutland, but I have one household over the border in Harringworth - centred on Henry Rudkin and wife May Spinks
Alan
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I'll update you when I have had a successful sync.
FTM has been playing up for days, alternating between red, orange and green status.
I stated the sync during the green status yesterday which failed after it went orange when it was nearly finished.
I am still trying to sync my tree.
This follows a period of downloading and merging my tree which finally finished yesterday after taking most of the day and the day before.
I am so fed up with the instability I am thinking of closing my ancestry account and using another family tree programme.
Ancestry don't know the phrase "if it ain't broke don't fix it". All the problems I am having I am sure is down to ancestry and not the new owners of FTM.
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Still not had a successful but I thought I'd update you anyway.
I thought I had worked out that two of the men were first cousins but I can't seem to see that connection now ???
One of the men seems to have a very distant relationship to me and there is no connection with another.
I'll post again later when I've had a proper look at FTM.
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Henry Lovick Rudkin 1892-1917 Empingham
Sergeant, TR5/25334, Henry Lovick Fauckner Rudkin, 9th Bn. East Yorkshire Regiment. Killed in action 24-03-17, aged 25. Son of William and Catherine Rudkin, Empingham. Buried in Empingham (St. Peter) Churchyard, Rutland.
and a photo http://www.rutlandremembers.org/fallen/368/rudkin-sergeant-lovick-henry-fauckner
Charles Iliffe Rudkin 1883-1918 Son of Mrs. Sarah Rudkin, of Ridlington, Uppingham, Rutland.
http://www.rutlandremembers.org/fallen/366/rudkin-private-charles-iliffe
George William Rudkin 1896-1915 Son of William Rudkin, of 8, River Terrace, Ryhall, Stamford, Lincs.
http://www.rutlandremembers.org/fallen/367/rudkin-private-george-william
William Rudkin 1895-1917 Son of Josiah and Jane Rudkin, of Exton, Oakham, Rutland.
http://www.rutlandremembers.org/fallen/369/rudkin-sergeant-william
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Thanks for posting but I have all that information :)
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Henry Lovick Rudkin is the first cousin of the husband of my 4th great aunt.
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George William Rudkin is the first cousin 1x removed of the husband of my 4th great aunt.
His name is Charles Rudkin and he married Sarah Winterton.
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Charles Iliffe Rudkin does not appear to connect at all to me or any of the other Rudkin men. I will keep looking though.
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Looks as if the village of Ridlington near Uppingham may hold the answer to Charles Iliffe Rudkin. GRO shows his mother's maiden name to be Bradshaw. This would equate to a marriage between Robert Rudkin and Sarah Bradshaw in 1877.
The 1891 census for Ridlington (RG12/2549 108 7) shows the following:
At (39) William Rudkin (57 years) farmer born Ridlington with wife Elizabeth Watkin (51), 4 sons and 2 daughters, Elizabeth was born in Ketton.
At (40) William Rudkin (29 years) (? William's son) with wife Ann Ellen Holman (30) and 1 daughter, 1 son She was born in Higham Ferrers
At (42), Robert Rudkin (38) and wife Sarah Bradshaw (39), 2 sons including Charles and 3 daughters. Sarah came from Morcott.
There were 2 Robert Rudkins born in the Uppingham District in 1853/4 - one to maiden name Manning, the other Harden
The 1871 census of Ridlington shows Josiah Rudkin of Exton (19) years working as a farm servant. This is on the page following the entry for William and Elizabeth Rudkin
This census also lists the 16 year old Robert Rudkin, born Ridlington - the son of William Rudkin (68) from Great Easton and his wife Elizabeth (59) from Wing
Hope that helps
Alan
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No connection to William Rudkin either.
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I have Robert and Sarah Rudkin (maiden name Bradshaw) in my tree.
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Thanks for all the information.
I'll look at what I have and see if I can fill the gaps.
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His name is Charles Rudkin and he married Sarah Winterton.
4 July 1870 at Empingham? If so Sarah married James Rudkin
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All interesting stuff. It just reminded me that I have a rudkin in Rutland, but not a direct line. Ellen rudkin born empingham would be my 3gt grandmas sisters mother in law. Ellen was born about 1834
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i have amos rudkin marrying bothiah winterton and a james rudkin marrying harriet winterton all from empingham
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Let me check my file and I'll get back to you all.
Thanks.