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Title: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Tuesday 10 July 18 16:25 BST (UK)

Hello,

I've hit some dead ends with the origins of these individuals:

Elizabeth Dakin - had an illegitimate daughter in Shepshed in 1753
John Underwood and Jane Waldrom, married in Rothley in 1797

I'd appreciate any help!

Adam

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: TonyV on Wednesday 11 July 18 23:45 BST (UK)

Hi

I have an ancestor called Elizabeth Deacon born in Leicestershire and found that the surname has many variations including Dakin. If you haven't already done so I suggest that you try a few variations.

Tony

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Thursday 12 July 18 08:14 BST (UK)

That's a good idea. Thanks!

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 16 July 18 16:36 BST (UK)

just checking - are you looking for the name of Elizabeths daughter Shepshed 1753? & what details needed for Rothley marriage?


I have access to Shepshed & Rothley records.


Diddy

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Monday 16 July 18 16:39 BST (UK)

I have the details of Elizabeth's illegitimate daughter (my 5x great-grandmother) but I know nothing of Elizabeth prior to having her daughter. She later married a man named Lewin. I'm looking for any details of John Underwood prior to marrying Jane Waldrom (know little of her other than a c. 1769 birth year) but I don't think he was from Rothley :(

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 16 July 18 16:41 BST (UK)

ok I will have a look tomorrow.


Diddy

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Monday 16 July 18 16:45 BST (UK)

Thanks!

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: Bunnygirl on Monday 16 July 18 19:11 BST (UK)

Hi Adam
There is a Jane Waldram baptized in Mountsorrel 12 June 1758 daughter of George
Marriage Mountsorrel 31 Jan 1758
George Waldram to Mary Bruxby
By Lic in presence of Eben Jones & ohn Simpson junior

Regards
Bunnygirl

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Monday 16 July 18 19:15 BST (UK)

Thanks Bunnygirl! Unfortunately, my Jane died aged 98 in 1867, so would've been a bit too young for that christening.

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: diddymiller on Tuesday 17 July 18 12:47 BST (UK)

Ok interesting morning in library.
Elizabeth Dakin - igi has no likely baps 1730 -1737 also checked Shepshed & loughborough prs &  no joy.
So marriage 27 Dec 1756 Shepshed prs  have full details.


It reads
Banns of marriage between John Lewin & Elizabeth Dakin both of this parish Dec 12/19/26th.
John Lewin & Elizabeth lewin were married 27th Dec 1756 Shepshed by me vicar ...
John Lewin    his mark
Elizabeth Lewin  her mark
Witnesses Edward Lewin  John Haddon ( think John a parish official - seen his name before)


Now obviously both places where it says Elizabeth Lewin it should read Dakin! As they were illiterate must be
Vicars fault. Maybe they had been living together since Elizabeth's daughter born & so vicar thought of her as
Lewin! Not sure whether this means record is invalid??
Well it doesn't help sorry but interesting . . .
Diddy

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Tuesday 17 July 18 12:50 BST (UK)

Thanks Diddy! That's certainly food for thought  ;D

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: iluleah on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:14 BST (UK)

Elizabeth likely had another illegitimate child Luke bap in Shepshed in 1855.
Elizabeth herself was the child of John /Mary who bap their children in Thornton Leicester potentially lived at Bagworth

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:17 BST (UK)

May I have the details of Elizabeth's birth? Are you sure it's the same person who lived in Shepshed?

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: diddymiller on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:22 BST (UK)

surely cant be the same Elizabeth - one we were looking for must have been bap 1730 - 1737?? wouldn't be having children 1855!!  or do you mean 1755?


Diddy

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:30 BST (UK)

1755. The christening was from 1755 for Luke Dakin.

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:31 BST (UK)

I see two burials for an Elizabeth Lewin in Shepshed, one in 1757 and one in 1765. Can anyone see if any notes are attached e.g. wife of John?

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: diddymiller on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:38 BST (UK)

I did check the Shepshed cemetery list / details this am. no lewins listed so no grave stone. can check burials next time in.


did see a bap for bagworth but not considered as not that near Shepshed


diddy

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: iluleah on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:45 BST (UK)

Elizabeth Dakin ( mother) 28 May 1735 Thornton

St Boltolph
Elizabeth Dakin 2 March 1753 Shepshed, Leicestershire ( m John Whitworth)
Luke Dakin, 24 November 1755, Shepshed, Leicestershire (potentially died 1765)

Title: Re: Leicestershire dead ends
Post by: MacGrigor on Tuesday 17 July 18 14:46 BST (UK)

Thanks to both of you!