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My 3rd great grandmother is Lavinia Pritchard - BIRTH SEP 1855 • Newport, Shropshire, England
DEATH 26 JUN 1915 • Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England.
The only records I could find before she married William Dick is in 1861 age 6 and she is living with her grandparents (John Pritchard and Margaret Plimmer) in Newport, Staffordshire.
I have her Mother as Mary Ann Pritchard BIRTH 1835 • NEWPORT,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND - but cannot find who her father is and probably won't as her surname is her mother's maiden name.
What is interesting is that I have found a marriage for Mary Ann to a William Marshall in 1856. This is within/a year after Lavinia's birth. They then have a further 9 children born from time ranges 1857 to 1878.
There is no reason found for why Lavinia is living with her grandparents, and I cannot find her with her mother anywhere.
I have found hints on ancestry for Mary Ann / her daughter Adeline / daughter Rachel Chester and son Robert Harry Marshall all to be either living or visiting in Pennsylvania around 1888 and the 1900's, although I cannot find out more because I do not currently have the subscription to view the documents.
I cannot think why they would be in Pennsylvania as all other relatives all are in England unless it is connected to the Marshall tree line or through marriage of one of the children.
Can anyone please confirm I have the correct information and also Is there a way to find out Lavinia's father and the reason she is not with the mother but with her grandparents. Why would she leave her child and why would some of her new family imergrate to Pennsylvania, USA?
Many thanks.
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Where does the information that her mother is Mary Ann come from :-\
Don't forget that a census is just a record of where someone is staying on one night. She may have been living with parent/s the rest of the year
Just adding
Birth Sep qtr 1855
PRITCHARD Levina - (no mmn)
Newport Sp 6a 660
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From Family Search. 1871. Lavinia Pritchard 15 , servant. Born Newport. Living Chetwynd. Salop. In household of James Smart.
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I found a photo copy of lavinia's birth certificate which said mother Mary Ann Pritchard and her father left blank.
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Does her marriage certificate name her father :-\
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Her marriage states her father's name as John Pritchard, Deceased.
She married William Dick in 1879 however her grandfather is called John Pritchard, so presumably he signed under her father behalf section?
Also I cannot see that her father's surname would be the same as her grandparents and mother's surname, unless he was a relation? cousin? However I don't believe so? Or there is a really dark secret of Mary Ann having her father's baby? Of which would be a scandal.
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I suspect she just gave the name of her grandfather, it often happened :)
She clearly was not the child of William Marshall. Sometimes a baptism will name a father.
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Sometimes there is a bastardy order for an illegitimate child. If the records still exist they would probably be with Shropshire record office.
I have found hints on ancestry for Mary Ann / her daughter Adeline / daughter Rachel Chester and son Robert Harry Marshall all to be either living or visiting in Pennsylvania around 1888 and the 1900's, although I cannot find out more because I do not currently have the subscription to view the documents.
I cannot think why they would be in Pennsylvania as all other relatives all are in England unless it is connected to the Marshall tree line or through marriage of one of the children.
Can anyone please confirm I have the correct information and also Is there a way to find out Lavinia's father and the reason she is not with the mother but with her grandparents. Why would she leave her child and why would some of her new family imergrate to Pennsylvania, USA?
Many thanks.
This is on familysearch (free to search)
Robert Harry Marshall
United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Robert Harry Marshall
Draft Registration
Event Date 1942
Event Place Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, United States
Residence Place Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Employer Robert Harry/Marshall
Birth Date 11 Aug 1878
Could this be what you see on Ancestry :-\
Try searching that web site for your other names in case the information is there.
I am afraid I have got to stop for today.
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I will take a look.
Thank you for your time.
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Rachel Chester Wright
Birth 16 Jul 1871, England
Death 13 Jan 1953, Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: William Marshall
Mother: Mary Chester
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Robert Harry Marshall
Birth 11 Aug 1878, England
Death 16 Jun 1949, Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Father: William Marshall
Mother: Mary Ann Pritchard
Spouse: Bella Green Marshall
As to why they emigrated to Pennsylvania - that area attracted many coal and iron workers from the UK
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It looks like there are obituaries for Robert and Rachel in the Pittsburgh papers. https://archives.post-gazette.com/search/#lnd=1&query=rachel+wright+bevins&dr_year=1953-1953&t=4098
https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=robert+marshall&ymd-start=1949-06-16&ymd-end=1949-06-17&t=3518,4098&p_place=PA
I don't have a full subscription, but you can see some of the search result, play around with the search terms, and see more of the obituary by clicking on the little black arrows. It appears that they had a sister named Ethel M. Bevins. This looks like her:
1900 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS1P-461
1910 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGHX-DC7
1930 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCCQ-F95
1940 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQWC-DJX
Marriage of Ethel Marshall & Walter Bevins - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF92-J9V
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Robert H Marshall
The Pittsburgh Press
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Friday, June 17, 1949 - Page 39
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21823178/robert_h_marshallobit/
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Rachel Wright
The Pittsburgh Press
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Wednesday, January 14, 1953 - Page 28
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21823220/rachel_wrightobit/
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Walter Bevins (Ethel's husband)
The Pittsburgh Press
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Friday, February 25, 1944 - Page 29
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21823266/walter_bevinsobit/
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Ethel M Bevins
Died in Youngstown, Ohio
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Friday, October 05, 1956 - Page 16
Go to page 16
Obit: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=gL9scSG3K_gC&dat=19561005&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
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Last Name First Name Death Date County Cert. ID
Bevins Ethel M Oct 03, 1956 Mahoning 1956147183-1956147184
http://resources.ohiohistory.org/death/
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Tom Marshall
Birth: 16 Jan 1859
Birth Place: England
Death: 13 Apr 1947
Father: William Marshall
Mother: Mary Chester
Spouse: Alice Marshall
The Pittsburgh Press
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Monday, April 14, 1947 - Page 28
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21824327/tom_marshallobit/
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William Marshall
Birth Date: 2 Feb
[abt 1868]
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 24 Jul 1937
Death Place: Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: William Marshall
Mother: Mary Anne Prichard
Spouse: Minnie Marwood
The Pittsburgh Press
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Sunday, July 25, 1937 - Page 39
Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/21825355/william_marshall_obit/