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I'm preparing a presentation for a family reunion.
The opening slide/title is "What's a nice girl from Eastcheap doing in a draughty Scottish castle"
I'd be grateful for any suggestions to make it sound as if it was being said by someone from Scotland.
Many thanks indeed.
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I'm sure you will get lots of help with this, but have you checked to see if there is anything online? I'm sure there must be something that tells you "how to say things in various languages/accents"?
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What about this
(Fit's a bonny lassie fae East Chip deein in a cal windy Scottish Castle )
Rosie :D
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Sounds great Rosie! She probably wondered that herself.
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Sounds great Rosie! She probably wondered that herself.
;D ;D
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Could I suggest "Scawttish", rather than Scottish.
Regards
Chas
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Ma tae cents wurrrth!
"Whit's a bawny lahsee fray Eastcheep dee-in in a drafty auld Scawtish Carsill"
Dinnae ferrget tae rawl y'er rrrrr's!! ;D ;D ;D
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"Scawtish Carsill"
Jaybel,
We dinnae add 'R's tae wurds like the English dae i.e. a Castle is just that, pronounced 'Casle/casul' depending on which area one is in ;)
Hurworth;
This'll mak ye smile;
https://scotlandwelcomesyou.com/scottish-sayings/
Annie
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"Scawtish Carsill"
Jaybel,
We dinnae add 'R's tae wurds like the English dae i.e. a Castle is just that, pronounced 'Casle/casul' depending on which area one is in ;)
Hurworth;
This'll mak ye smile;
https://scotlandwelcomesyou.com/scottish-sayings/
Annie
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;D ;D ;D. Certainly did! I have a framed tea towel with lots of those sayings on it.
Another old Scottish one is " Ye'll git y'er heid in your honds and yer teeth tae play with!!
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Dinnae ferrget tae rawl y'er rrrrr's!! ;D ;D ;D
You're not in Gore now Dr Ropata!
Thank you everyone for your help.
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;D ;D ;D. hurworth, you must be another Kiwi!! 👍👍
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"Scawtish Carsill"
Jaybel,
Another old Scottish one is " Ye'll git y'er heid in your honds and yer teeth tae play with!!
Was told that many a time ..or you gan tae get a lickin ( going to get smacked ) ;D
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"Ah'll take ma haun aff yer jaw!" ;D
Skoosh.
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"Ah'll take ma haun aff yer jaw!" ;D
Skoosh.
That's anither ein ;D ;D
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Which area of Scotland would you like the accent to be from?
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"Ah'll take ma haun aff yer jaw!" ;D
Skoosh.
Or yer erse :-X ;D
Looby :)
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Which area of Scotland would you like the accent to be from?
Her husband had Dumfries connections.
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"A face like a well-skelped erse!"
Skoosh,
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A braw wee lassie frae Eastcheap, perhaps?
Was she staying there or just biding a while?
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A braw wee lassie frae Eastcheap, perhaps?
"frae" is not Scottish, no 'r' in fae!
Annie
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Fae is used in Central and Northern Scotland! - Ayrshire and (probably) Dumfrieshire as well. 😄
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As someone born in Scotland who lived his formative years in Scotland I would say
"What's a nice girl from Eastcheap doing in a draughty Scottish castle"
Accents depend on location, very often as in Scotland quite precise location, parentage, time period, class, education and even sex.
Cheers
Guy
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I would agree with Guy. As a Scot of many years, I have found that there are so many dialects in Scotland, one cannot claim that there is a "Scottish" accent. Some places within our border have a "twang" which I require an interpreter to understand, and that does not include Scottish Gaelic.
https://www.scotslanguage.com/Scots_Dialects_uid117/The_Main_Dialects_of_Scots
Malky.
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The consultant on his rounds asked the patient "Cumfy?" the answer was "Maryhill!"
Skoosh.
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The consultant on his rounds asked the patient "Cumfy?" the answer was "Maryhill!"
Skoosh.
;D
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As someone born in Scotland who lived his formative years in Scotland I would say
"What's a nice girl from Eastcheap doing in a draughty Scottish castle"
Accents depend on location, very often as in Scotland quite precise location, parentage, time period, class, education and even sex.
Guy,
The question asked was "Would like some help with Scottish accent please"
In Scotland a 'girl' (in a Scottish accent) would be 'lassie' just as in an English accent it would be 'gal' (I think)? regardless if we go by the original question without going round the houses with different counties etc. as 'lassie' seems the obvious to me.
Annie
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As someone born in Scotland who lived his formative years in Scotland I would say
"What's a nice girl from Eastcheap doing in a draughty Scottish castle"
Accents depend on location, very often as in Scotland quite precise location, parentage, time period, class, education and even sex.
Guy,
The question asked was "Would like some help with Scottish accent please"
In Scotland a 'girl' (in a Scottish accent) would be 'lassie' just as in an English accent it would be 'gal' (I think)? regardless if we go by the original question without going round the houses with different counties etc. as 'lassie' seems the obvious to me.
Annie
If you say so, however where I grew up I only heard the term lassie used in Scottish songs and poems etc. but never in a real life situation.
The villagers and even the old farm hands just didn't refer to girls or women as lass, or lassies.
They would use the term girl but roll the r ( girrl )
I am not saying it did not happen elsewhere in Scotland but it didn't occur in the village where I grew up.
Cheers
Guy
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Girls were always called "quines" and still are here.
Malky
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My Two Scottish Grandmothers & Grandfathers, plus my Scottish Mum & Dad, plus all my Scottish relative's always called me and my girl cousins bonnie wee lass or bonnie wee lassie! (Unless I was in trouble of course) - I still do the same with my own daughter, my Grandaughter, and now my wee great Grandaughter!
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Girls were always called "quines" and still are here.
Malky
Aberdeen perchance?? ;D
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Lassies in Glasgow! ;D
Skoosh.
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"Gin a body meet a body,
Comin' through the rye
Gin a body kiss a body,
Need a body cry?
Ilka lassie has a laddie
Nane, they say, ha'e I
Yet a' the lads they smile at me
When comin' through the Rye."
If Lassie was good enough for Robbie Burns, it's good enough for me.
Martin
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Girls were always called "quines" and still are here.
Malky
Aberdeen perchance?? ;D
Yes the Granite City and Loonies for boys ;D
Rosie
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"Gin a body meet a body,
Comin' through the rye
Gin a body kiss a body,
Need a body cry?
Ilka lassie has a laddie
Nane, they say, ha'e I
Yet a' the lads they smile at me
When comin' through the Rye."
If Lassie was good enough for Robbie Burns, it's good enough for me.
Martin
👍👍👍 Me too ;D ;D. RIGHT ON Martin.
I have two very favourite books re the life, loves and times of Robert Burns, written by James Barke. They're written in the form of a novel, which makes them very interesting and easy to read.
"The Wind that Shakes The Barley" and "The Song In The Green Thorn Tree!" Both fantastic reads! with plenty of Burns' poetry. I've tried to source some more of James Barke's books from our NZ librarIies - but no joy here. 😟 Amazon have a few I think, but they're pretty expensive!
I am also lucky enough to have the writings of my Great Grandfather Whitefield Watson, who also wrote poetry in the vernacular and was a lover of Burns, and some of the writings are speeches and analysis of Burn's poetry given at his local Burns Club here in NZ!
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Girls were always called "quines" and still are here.
"Quine" is an example of slang or different county usage;
"Scottish slang word Definition Quine A young girl, lassie Quine (Especially in Aberdeen)"
The quote still ponts back to the scottish word 'lassie'
Nowadays, I suppose people are more proper in speech i.e. more likely to use 'girrl' as Guy mentioned but overall a scottish girl was/is & always will be a lassie or (older) wummin/wifey ;D
Annie
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A braw wee lassie frae Eastcheap, perhaps?
Was she staying there or just biding a while?
She probably lived there for a while. She was born in Elizabethan England. A daughter and a son had Scottish spouses. She outlived her English first husband (it was his second marriage) then married a landed Scottish widower and outlived him as well. According to burial records she is buried with her first husband in England. By then James was the King of England, Scotland and Ireland.
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If she lived there, that's "staying" ...
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"Gin a body meet a body,
Comin' through the rye
Gin a body kiss a body,
Need a body cry?
Ilka lassie has a laddie
Nane, they say, ha'e I
Yet a' the lads they smile at me
When comin' through the Rye."
If Lassie was good enough for Robbie Burns, it's good enough for me.
Martin
Did you know that "coming thro the Rye" refers to the ford crossing the Rye Water in Dalry North Ayrshire? The ford is still there although there is a footbridge right next to it
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