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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: Shiny1 on Thursday 09 August 18 11:42 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I have to make a trip to Newcastle at the weekend so thought I'd try to get into Newcastle Library for a few hours and find some marriages register entries however I've realised I don't know where to start up there!
I know for North Tyneside you can go on the council's website, find the marriage and from the registry book entry number you can tell which church they were married in. Then it's a case of hitting the microfilm and finding the register entry. Is there a similar system for Newcastle?
I have 31 marriages to try and find ranging from the 1870's to the 1980's (although most are between 1910 and 1950). I know a couple were in the cathedral and have the exact dates but for them but for most all I have is the year and quarter from free BMD.
Any help would be appreciated.
Michael
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For the earlier ones, try Marriage Locator:
http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk
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Newcastle used to have a marriage search online similar to the ones you mention.
Unfortunately it disappeared a good while ago and the current 'search' just invites you to purchase the cert.
Oh post the list, I am currently fed up trying to find twiglets in a US State that will only let you buy copy BMD records if you know the exact date and place (oh if I knew that I wouldn't be asking!) - and you probably have to turn up in person accompanied by all four sets of Great Grandparents to vouch for you. :-)
Having a look through old newspapers etc would be a nice change and it 'may' find at least some of them for you.
:-)
Boo
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Thanks a lot AVM228, I haven't seen that site before but have located a few of the older 1870's ones quite quickly. 1915 was the "newest one" I've tried but had no luck with that.
Boo, thanks for the offer but I have to go to a meeting so can't post any now. I might try a few tonight if I'm still stuck.
The only quick one I have is the 1915 one I've just tried which was William Issac Carruthers to Mary J Hall in Q4 1915 (Newcastle, 10b, 9).
Thanks for the help,
Michael
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Don’t forget that not all marriages took place in church, some were in a Register Office. Later ones may also have been in nonconformist churches.
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The only quick one I have is the 1915 one I've just tried which was William Issac Carruthers to Mary J Hall in Q4 1915 (Newcastle, 10b, 9).
Have tried newspapers but nothing coming up, sorry. Its always worth a look though!
As Jebber says some would have married in Register Offices, especially at that time when so many young men were going off to war and they knew they may not return, I think it may have been easier and quicker to have a registry office wedding.
Boo
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Hi Michael,
I might be confused here but are you hoping to look at microfilms of marriages registers at the library? As far as I am aware they don't keep these at the library. You would need to go to the Archives.
It is such a shame that Newcastle no longer has that site which enables researchers to find out which Church ancestors married at. Unlike North Tyneside and South Tyneside which are more helpful to family researchers.
Taking into account religion - it can sometimes be helpful to look at the closest Churches to the Bride's house and check the relevant registers. You have probably thought of this already, however.
Thanks avm, for posting this great link - I have just tested this out and a known church for an ancestor is shown! (1870) :D. So I think I will be able to try this for yet unknown ones.
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Thanks again for the help everyone.
Jebber, thanks for that, the site has shown a couple as being in registry offices so they are on it as well.
Boo thanks for looking for me, your probably right about it being a pre off to war wedding.
River Tyne Lass that's exactly what I was hoping to do, it sounds like that's a non starter then. I thought they held them there, at least you have saved me the time of trying to get in there to find out they don't have the microfilm.
Michael
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Hi Michael,
The library has a good number of interesting volumes containing information concerning local Churches ranged over this area. For instance, there are marriages and baptisms volumes going way back for St Hilda. Someone hand wrote these but this type of thing will only give you brief information. For full entries you would still need to go to the archives.
It might be possible to find marriage notices in the Evening Chronicle though. If those you are looking for placed such a notice this would likely give you the name of a Church or let you know if they married in the registry office. You may strike really lucky in the later years e.g. 1940s onwards and actually come across a wedding photo.
It might still be worth going to the library even if to check out the wealth of information which they do have. They have booklets letting you know what they do have. I would recommend ranging around the shelves behind where the staff sit. Lots of volumes there relating to Northumberland and Durham.
Library is open on Sunday too after 11 am. 10 am Saturday. I would try to arrive on opening just in case all microfilm readers get taken.
I would take this opportunity if you can to visit. :)
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Your list sounds quite long.
You know, you could always post the names of those now deceased on the list if you think you know where they may have wed and perhaps RootsChatters like myself could help you chip away at it whenever we to can fit in time to visit the archives.
I do appreciate that with your work and other commitments, such as the work you do with the local scouts, etc will make things very difficult for you to get to the archives on your own behalf.
Just to add - I do think you might find a trip to the library in Newcastle interesting if you can ever make it up there. Late nights till 7 pm Mon - Thurs. I do manage to get there quite regularly and yet I am always coming across new resources. I recently found a volume giving the memorial inscriptions for St Paul, Whitley Bay. The book noted that many of the grave stones have been cleared away. Apparently some were placed at the bottom of Marden quarry and some were used for paving stones at Brierdene. :o :o
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Hi Michael
If you had enough time you could always go to the archives at Woodhorn tomorrow. They have Tyne and Wear Churches too and those in Northumberland. You could check their catalogue.
There is a large car park or if you wanted to go by public transport the 19 bus goes to Ashington bus station from North Shields leaving from behind metro station bus stop. From Ashington bus station turn right out of the station, walk ahead. Cross over at traffic lights. You will be in McDonald's side. Walk down very long road till you come to a signpost on left for Queen Elizabeth country park. Enter. Cross small rail track. Walk forward. Turn right at lake. Follow path along the lake and you will come to a car park and voila you will be there. :)
You will need ID.
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Hi River Tyne Lass, thanks a lot for all the advice, I have been to the library and woodhorn before but didn't realise what they have in there (or don't in this case).
I can't get to either tomorrow, I have to much other stuff on, Sunday is my option because I have to go to Newcastle for a meeting so will probably have a few hours to spare. I'm still planning to get into the library on Sunday, I have other things I can look for. I will follow your advice though and see what is on the shelves behind the staff, hopefully I'll be able to track some more things down.
I'll see what I can find on the marriage locator website, it's proving to be a very useful resource. Once I've finished I'll maybe post the ones I need help with to confirm parents etc.
I can't believe Marden Quarry is lined with grave stones or that Brierdene is paved with them, I'll bet there aren't too many people realise that.
Thanks again for the help,
Michael
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Hope you enjoy your visit to the library tomorrow. It is open 11 - 4 on a Sunday. The booklets on the stand to your left when you come out of the lift on the 6th floor will give you an idea of what volumes regarding parishes the library holds. (Northumberland & Durham) Microfilms for things such as newpapers, burials, cremations are in filing cabinets. Lots of records on microfiche too and can be found on shelves and in filing cabinets.
They also have a range of newspapers out the back which you can view in original form if you sign for them. You may need ID if you are not a library member already. A good one is the 'Illustrated Chronicle' - this featured much on aspects of the war during the Great War years. You may occasionally come across a marriage photo in this newspaper.
The shelves behind the staff tables hold many parish volumes, some interesting memorial inscription books and there are shelves of trade/street directories, etc. If you go past the computer section you will also find a good range of family and local history books, too.
Yes, I bet not a lot of people know what happened to the grave stones from the Whitley Bay St Paul's Churchyard. I was a bit shocked when I read in the volume you will find there that these were put in the Marden quarry and used as paving stones at Brier Dene. I don't know when this was actually carried out. I wonder what the local people's reaction was then? I don't think I would be too happy if I had forked out for a grave stone for this to be sunk under a quarry or used as part of a footpath.