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Title: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Sunday 16 September 18 17:07 BST (UK)
An old estate house, now owned by a local charitable trust, has a painting from around 1925 of a former owner. They would like to know the name of the artist but have been unable to decipher the signature.

Any thoughts gratefully received

thanks in advance

Edward

Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Erato on Sunday 16 September 18 17:24 BST (UK)
Driaz?
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 16 September 18 17:25 BST (UK)
Quote from: Erato on Sunday 16 September 18 17:24 BST (UK)
Driaz?

Was just about to say the same.

What kind of painting  is it?
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 16 September 18 17:28 BST (UK)
Could first letter be an A (Ariaz)?

Monica

Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 16 September 18 17:39 BST (UK)
I wondered in the last letter was an artistic "n" to make the signature more distinctive   :-\

Kay
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Sunday 16 September 18 17:52 BST (UK)
Quote from: Gadget on Sunday 16 September 18 17:25 BST (UK)
What kind of painting  is it?

Let me see if they will send me a photo of the whole picture

Edward
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Greensleeves on Sunday 16 September 18 18:11 BST (UK)
How about this chap - Etienne Drian?

http://www.artnet.com/artists/etienne-drian/
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Ray T on Sunday 16 September 18 18:16 BST (UK)
Compare the signature on "Study of a person with a mask" and Robert is your mother's brother!
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Sunday 16 September 18 18:22 BST (UK)
Quote from: Greensleeves on Sunday 16 September 18 18:11 BST (UK)
How about this chap - Etienne Drian?

http://www.artnet.com/artists/etienne-drian/
Absolutely bang on, the signature matches here https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/ader-sarl/catalogue-id-srade10025/lot-8c5210ba-8e36-4be1-b443-a457010d5511

RC's strike again

Many thankls

Edward
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 16 September 18 18:58 BST (UK)
Quote from: Greensleeves on Sunday 16 September 18 18:11 BST (UK)
How about this chap - Etienne Drian?

http://www.artnet.com/artists/etienne-drian/

Nice one GS  8)...That's an artist who's new to me.

Carol
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Sunday 16 September 18 19:02 BST (UK)
I have e-mailed the trust with GS's detective work and will add the response once received.

If only I could send GS a gold star & a big hug

Edward
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Greensleeves on Sunday 16 September 18 19:12 BST (UK)
I am so pleased we've solved that one - I really like his work, and was happy to play a part in identifying the signature.  Virtual gold star and big hugs all round!   :)
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Monday 17 September 18 11:40 BST (UK)
I now have a photo of the drawing. I also found out this morning that her father was the Ambassador in Paris in the 1920's. It looks like it was done in charcoal when Mary was between 10 & 12.

The trust was very excited with the news and has asked me to thank everyone on their behalf.

Edward
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Greensleeves on Monday 17 September 18 12:35 BST (UK)
Thanks for posting Edward - what a charming drawing!

Regards
GS
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Monday 17 September 18 13:11 BST (UK)
I agree and would happily have it on a wall at home - I just enjoy looking at it

Edward
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Monday 17 September 18 13:40 BST (UK)
The trust have now added a note on the solution to the front page of their website

https://westhorsleyplace.org/

Edward
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: josey on Monday 17 September 18 14:22 BST (UK)
That is such a lovely drawing, so evocative.

Well done RC!!
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Edward Scott on Tuesday 23 October 18 13:06 BST (UK)
Credit now given to RC

https://westhorsleyplace.org/art-mystery-solved/

Edward
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Karen McDonald on Tuesday 23 October 18 13:10 BST (UK)
Well done, everybody!  :)
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 23 October 18 16:32 BST (UK)
Thanks for the update Edward and for sharing this charming sketch, I love it.
Carol
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Greensleeves on Tuesday 23 October 18 19:43 BST (UK)
What a lovely pat on the back for us all.  Thanks so much for sharing, Edward.  Don't forget to let us know next time you want some sleuthing done!

Kindest regards
GS
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Treetotal on Tuesday 23 October 18 19:57 BST (UK)
Quote from: Greensleeves on Tuesday 23 October 18 19:43 BST (UK)
What a lovely pat on the back for us all.  Thanks so much for sharing, Edward.  Don't forget to let us know next time you want some sleuthing done!

Kindest regards
GS

If I were your teacher GS...I would give you a gold star ⭐️

Carol
Title: Re: Painting signature
Post by: Greensleeves on Tuesday 23 October 18 21:57 BST (UK)
Quote from: Treetotal on Tuesday 23 October 18 19:57 BST (UK)
Quote from: Greensleeves on Tuesday 23 October 18 19:43 BST (UK)
What a lovely pat on the back for us all.  Thanks so much for sharing, Edward.  Don't forget to let us know next time you want some sleuthing done!

Kindest regards
GS

If I were your teacher GS...I would give you a gold star ⭐️

Carol


Aw thanks Carol.  Am well pleased we were able to solve the puzzle.  :)