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Title: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: Arisaid on Sunday 15 August 04 02:45 BST (UK)
Looking for any connection to this family. 
Stephen NEWPORT and family emigrated to New Zealand in 1842 on board the ship "Sir Charles Forbes".  Also on board this ship were Joseph NEWPORT and Samuel NEWPORT (all brothers?)
Stephen was born circa 1810, maybe in West Wycombe.

Can anyone help?
Would love to track this family back to Buckinghamshire.
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: Frances on Monday 16 August 04 15:53 BST (UK)
Hi Arisaid,
I have found the Buckinghamshire Family History Society very helpful and their charges are also very reasonable.
Best of Luck, Frances

http://www.bucksfhs.org.uk/
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: jodeda on Wednesday 16 February 05 07:45 GMT (UK)
 hi stephen,
   another kiwi relation my connection is through samuel newport born 30/7/1797 married 1823 buckingham then new zealand
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: colnewport on Sunday 03 July 05 10:13 BST (UK)
Hi there, I think that Walter Newport who was the son of Joseph Newport may be my great great grandfather.  I am only just starting out on this part of the family so would like to get in touch with you and discuss what each other knows
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: Hyarmendacil on Wednesday 09 November 05 23:17 GMT (UK)
I am descended from Samuel Newport who immigrated to NZ on the Sir Charles Forbes in 1842. The ship's register shows a total of 19 passengers travelling under the name of Newport; including Samuel's family (9), Joseph's family (5) and Stephen's family (5). The ages for Samuel & Ann's family as recorded in the register are inaccurate, because Samuel (the eldest brother) was a little over the age limit for immigration and the whole family's ages were shuffled down to conceal this.

Samuel (born 1797) was the eldest child in the family and the third Samuel Newport in a row. His siblings were, in order: Ann (b.1799), James (b.1802), Joseph (b.1804), Grace (b.1806), Jane (b.1807), Job (b.1809), Stephen (b.1810) and Tryphena (b.1812). Thus far all the research was compiled by my father, who died recently, so I have been trying to extend things further.

The great grandfather of Samuel, Joseph & Stephen was the illegitimate son of Sir Henry Newport (Lord Newport), the Earl of Bradford, Viscount Newport & Baron Newport. I have just discovered that Sir Henry fell out with his family and left all his estates to his illegitimate son, John (born John Harrison). The will was contested but eventually took effect as intended. I have read a comment that there was some "act" (presumably of paliament) to allow John to change his name to Newport and our family oral history has it that he was the last Baron Newport and that each Samuel could have picked up this title but did not, so that it became extinct after Samuel (III).

I have started the attempt to obtain further information or sources to evidence each link. In particular, I would like to obtain the birth record for Samuel (I). The earliest document I have is (a photocopy of) the birth entry for Samuel (III) in the parish records of Great Missendon from 1797. I have also been compiling a family tree and have the Newport line back to 1401.

I also came across one researcher's effort, based mainly on LDS records, which traces a single line back from the spouse of one of the earliest Newports back to the Kings of Powys (Wales) and thence to Magnus Maximus, Constantine the Great and Claudius II (Caesar) who died in AD 270. I have yet to find the time to corroborate all this - I thought I'd start with John Harrison/Newport because it seemed there would be an interesting family story behind it.

If you would be happy to provide me with whatever details you have of Stephen/Joseph & their families I would love to include this in the tree. In return, I will forward you the 'Newport database' once I have finished compiling the first draft.

Kind regards
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: playford on Sunday 01 April 07 10:42 BST (UK)
Hi, I'm Joseph Newports great grandson,my wife is Samuels great,great,granddaughter,have been chasing family skeletons for nine years.Am new to computers.Have some information on all three brothers ,their ancestors and descendants.hoping to have a plaque at the Nelson 2000 trust to commerate their arrival.
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: Marty on Thursday 12 July 07 09:03 BST (UK)
Hi I descend from 2 of the Newport brothers that came to NZ on the Sir Charles Forbes in 1842. Joseph was my 3 x great grandfather on my maternal grandmother's line and Stephen was my 3 x great grandfather on my maternal grandfather's line.
I would like to make contact with others researching this family.
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: playford on Saturday 14 July 07 06:35 BST (UK)
Hi Marty,
          I am Playford,Live in Nelson,NZ.The Newports second home,Will see what I can put together for you.
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: mike newport on Tuesday 02 June 15 11:06 BST (UK)
Hello, I'm a descendant of Samuel's too. Have been trying to figure out the accuracy of several family trees which give a variety of information about Henry's offspring.

From this account given by legal officials about distantly related executors of Henry's will - with nothing to gain from wish, conjecture or fantasy... 

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/a1155e69-d825-468b-8a5d-65b04dbefa82

It looks like John Harrison b.1720 /Newport (name taken in 1728 before the decree perhaps?) was the only descendant of Richard and Mary, and is most probably our ancestor via Samuel.

This might also provide a basis for that claim by us as queried by others, as there are assertions made about lack of other than word of mouth about that connection.

Hope that helps - love to hear your thoughts, and would feel privileged to see your work so far.

Best regards, Mike Newport, Greymouth.
Title: Re: Stephen NEWPORT
Post by: mike newport on Saturday 06 June 15 06:50 BST (UK)
Further on... It seems plain that - John (Harrisson) Newport had no children.

There is a record of one Samuel Newport "son of John Newport of Middlesex" being apprenticed to John Smith - Coachman.
The dates on that photocopied record indicate that Samuel was 20 years of age at the time.
It is more likely that the "missing link" John Newport was a tradesman or labourer - as a noblemans son would have been unlikely to take such a position.
I'm going to carry on with that focus as I don't think our line came from Francis Newport of the peerage.
If anyone finds new info I'd be glad to hear from you.
Cheers - regards, Mike.