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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: hheapet on Tuesday 27 September 05 11:45 BST (UK)
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I am looking for decendants of Jonathan D Carr, founder of the biscuit factory in carlisle around 1831.
He was born abt 1807 in Kendal and married Jane ?? born abt 1809 in Whitehaven. I know they had a daughter Elizabeht born 1835 but what other children did they have?
Peter
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1861
RG9/3921
Folio 68 p. 40
Caldewgate, Cumberland
Coldale Hall
Jonathan Dodgson (?) Carr, head, 54, bread and biscuit muller & farmer of 430 (?) acres employing 100 hands & 55 lads at baking 9 millers & 5 agricultural labourers, b. Westmorland Kendal
Jane do., wife, 52, b. Cumberland St Bees
Elizabeth do., dau, unm, 26, b. Carlisle
Henry do., son, 26, baker, miller & farmer, b. do.
George Thompson do., son, unm, 23, baker, miller & farmer, b. do.
James Nicholson do., son, unm, 22, baker & miller, b. do.
Thomas William do., son, unm, 20, farmer, b. do.
Elizabeth Jane do., dau, unm, 18, b. do.
Catherine Muncaster (?), serv, unm, 33, cook, b. Cumberland Parton
Tanja :)
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thanks for that its a great help. now i need to follow the boys as my grandmother was born following an illicit liaison with my g grandmother and one of the decendants from these, probably son of
peter
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Just in passing
I have came across this, on some parish records of mine:
1835 May 1st Sarah Glaister daughter of William and Mary Carr of Scotch St, Whitehaven, a Smith
Just a thought, and not a biscuit person, but it may be yours
Andrew
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thank for that will check it out
Peter
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;D ;D
Oooh.......this bring back memories !! - Every Xmas my mother would buy a huge tin of Carr's Water Biscuits.
;D ;D
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I have a vague memory of a recent obituary in the Daily Telegraph for the most recent head of the family firm. Cannot remember when it was though. I am sure the Record Office will have lots of documentation about them as it was one of the major employers.
Andrea
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again thank you i am building a good bit of info on them at the moment
Peter
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Ask at your library if they can order a copy of a book (now out of print) called Rich Desserts and Captains Thin A Family and their Times by Margaret Forster. It has in it the family tree of Jonathan Carr m Jane Dodgson
Regards VeraT
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Hello - I am descended from these Carrs - I would love to know what you have discovered and I can tell you a bit about my side of them. Email me at (*) :)
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The book called Rich Desserts and Captains Thin a family and their times, I have read this book I would strongly recommend that you read this book. It has the family tree in the front of the book but tells you alot about the family. Once you start reading you can't put it down.
Regards
Oletta
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Thanks Oletta, I did read the book and found that the only'eligable' males were working in China so that closed the family story of a connection.
Peter
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Hi I am a Decendant My Grandmother is Margaret Irene Barwick nee Carr who ran away to Kent after a new life with her then boyfriend whom she married she died in December 2010 aged 102 I too am trying to piece together the family tree
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Hi Glen, welcome to rootschat.
I was searching for confirmation of a family tale regarding my grandmother and her possible father. Her mother worked at the Carr factory in Carlisle and my gran was born in the local workhouse. I could find no connection as the eligable males went off to missionary work in China. I did find the book ' Rich Desserts and Captains Thin A Family and their Times by Margaret Forster' very interesting and it has a lot of family history in it. My local library did not have a copy but another in the county did and they arranged for it to be sent to me.
Peter
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Just came across this while researching my family tree. Does anyone know if there was a Cyril Carr?
Family rumour is that a Cyril Carr part of the Carr biscuit family married my 2 x great grandmother and his family disapproved. And before his death he set my great grandfather and his own son ( my great grand fathers half brother up with businesses). But I can't find any mention of a Cyril Carr
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In a “previous life”, I worked at Carr’s of Carlisle. I remember one day there was a terrible “rumpus”. A customer had found a piece of metal in one of his biscuits. The management wrote to the customer and asked him to send the biscuit back, but try as they might, the customer would not.
In desparation they invited him up to Carlisle, paid his train fare, took him out to lunch and gave him a tour of the factory to demonstrate what a safe environment the biscuits were made under.
At the end of the day, they asked him for the biscuit, which the customer duly gave them. When they turned the biscuit over, it had another manufacture’s name, other than “Carr’s”, impressed upon it.
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Just came across this while researching my family tree. Does anyone know if there was a Cyril Carr?
Hi Tracey, welcome to RootsChat.
There was a John Cecil CARR (b 1876) who was a son ... I wonder if it was him.
Where did he live or die? Who did he marry?
EDIT: I have discovered that John Cecil CARR became a doctor and lived in China (d 1922). He married a Dorothy HUNNYBUN.
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Just came across this while researching my family tree. Does anyone know if there was a Cyril Carr?
Hi Tracey, welcome to RootsChat.
There was a John Cecil CARR (b 1876) who was a son ... I wonder if it was him.
Where did he live or die? Who did he marry?
EDIT: I have discovered that John Cecil CARR became a doctor and lived in China (d 1922). He married a Dorothy HUNNYBUN.
My great grandfather set up his businesses in Ripon his last name was Moore so I presume his mother's who the story goes married Cyril Carr was either divorced/ widowed. Don't know either her first name or maiden name. I wish I asked questions of my grandfather when I could, but unfortunately I was young and not very interested in the family history so I've only got snippets of information from other family members.
I live in Whitehaven and as a child I always remember being told there was some connection with the carrs it was only when u got older I learned what that connection was and that my great uncle, the son of my 2 x great grandmother and cyril carr.
I wonder if I could maybe find them on the census before moving to China to see if I can find my great grandfather living with a John Cyril carr
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Just a quick follow up the John cecil Carr who married Dorothy Hunnybun according to the marriage licence on ancestory , his father was Thomas carr so I don't think that's the same John cecil Carr.
Although it's starting to look like I'm on a wild goose chase and family rumour isn't true. I'll keep digging thou
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Thomas CARR was the head of the biscuit family. The administrators of JCC's estate were brothers and biscuit manufacturers.
You said you grandfather had a business in Ripon ... assuming he is now no longer alive, what was his name and where/when was he born?