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London and Middlesex / Re: Fanny Levine b1904 and parents
« on: Friday 05 April 24 13:21 BST (UK)  »
That looks very positive! I have a subscription to Ancestry again so I’ll check it out. Thank you!

Found them 1939 in Calvin st Spittalfields
Woolf ,Becky ,Mark 1911,Judah 1913 ,Freda 1914  and Nathan 1919.

1921 St George in the East -Woolf ,Rebecca ,Nathan and Marcus.
Her birthplace is interesting. It also gives his.

Trying to give enough info for you to find them but not so much that it causes a problem with copyright.

Ciderdrinker


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London and Middlesex / Re: Fanny Levine b1904 and parents
« on: Friday 05 April 24 08:40 BST (UK)  »
The confusing part may be explained by Woolf or Beila of being married twice (or there actually being 2 Woolfs).

We know that the grave of Bella Levene (1879-1949) includes Woolf noted on the stone. It’s at Edmonton Federation Cemetary.

I’ve also found a Woolf Levine married to Millie Maisiner (1891-1963) maybe in 1912. This Woolf had a mother called Fanny. Coincidence?

The reason why I discounted the census previously is because Woolf and Beila have children born in Russia and London. So he couldn’t have been on a census as a child, meaning the naturalisation is wrong too. Unless he did grow up here, Beila came over from Russia with children and then married him.

All very confusing.

Thanks in advance.

Thank you. I’d previously see that but discounted it. I can’t remember why and it now seems to fit. I think I may have been wrong.

It certainly matches up with his daughter and mother having the same name.

I’ve just signed up to Ancestry again so will have another look properly.

This is the 1901 census
Shows Woolf Levene born Russia 1886 with his parents Hyman and Fanny
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9D6-BM4

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London and Middlesex / Re: Fanny Levine b1904 and parents
« on: Friday 05 April 24 08:17 BST (UK)  »
Thank you. I have this but I’m not yet sure it’s him as there were possibly 2 Woolf Levine’s in that part of London.
Naturalization Certificate for Hyman LEVENE
27th  Aug 1902
Residing at 104 Wentworth Buildings, Goulston St, Aldgate, London
A subject of Russia, having been born at Galvan, Vilna, and is the son of Abraham and Zette Levene, both subjects of Russia, at the age of 40 years, a cabinet maker is married and has 4 children under age residing with him, viz:-
Woolf Levene age 16 yrs
Isaac Levene age 14
Gold Levene age 10
Nesha Levene age 5


Grave marker for Woolf Levene
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222417318/walter-woolf-levene

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London and Middlesex / Re: Fanny Levine b1904 and parents
« on: Friday 05 April 24 08:03 BST (UK)  »
Thank you. I’d previously see that but discounted it. I can’t remember why and it now seems to fit. I think I may have been wrong.

It certainly matches up with his daughter and mother having the same name.

I’ve just signed up to Ancestry again so will have another look properly.

This is the 1901 census
Shows Woolf Levene born Russia 1886 with his parents Hyman and Fanny
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9D6-BM4

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London and Middlesex / Re: Fanny Levine b1904 and parents
« on: Thursday 04 April 24 20:09 BST (UK)  »
Hi all, I now have the birth certificate of Fanny Levine in my position. Attached.

Any help to find more on her parents (Wolf and Beila) would be appreciated.

Thanks

Marc

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London and Middlesex / Re: Address of old business?
« on: Sunday 16 July 23 17:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Shaun

By 1940 he was at 35 Fashion Street (moved or renumbered?)

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London and Middlesex / Re: Address of old business?
« on: Sunday 16 July 23 17:17 BST (UK)  »

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London and Middlesex / Re: Address of old business?
« on: Sunday 16 July 23 17:17 BST (UK)  »
Thank you

There was a renumbering sometime between 1937/8 and September 1939 (the 1939 register has the new numbering).

It was renumbered from the opposite end. 45a became 35. I doubt it's been renumbered since, so Monty's cafe would be the present day number 35.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Address of old business?
« on: Sunday 16 July 23 15:52 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much, that’s amazing!!

The 1938 PO Directory lists Monty Cohen, refreshment rooms, at 45a Fashion Street.

In 1934 the proprietor was Jack Rans so presumably Monty started there between 1934 and 1938.

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