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Denbighshire / Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« on: Tuesday 15 November 11 08:29 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry, I should have quoted the page he was on!
I agree that the Y in the 1841 census is conflicting although I have seen this wrong in the census before
His son William Ellis Jones' death certificate in NSW says his (William's) place of birth is "Wrexham Montgomeryshire"
Ellis does not appear in the 1851 census as far as I can tell. There is another Ellis Jones in Denbighshire who is a farmer with a different family.
Unfortunately I have no more information at present. I'll keep looking of course!
Still may be a connection.

Thanks for your response
Nick Halljavascript:replaceText('%20:)',%20document.postmodify.message);


Quote from: wilcoxon on Monday 14 November 11 14:01 GMT (UK)
I managed to find him after searching though 10 pages. ::)

Reply #80 on: Saturday 12 March 11 11:48 GMT (UK) »   

Anne Jones : will, widow Pentrefelin 
Dated 21 feb 1815 . proved 1826
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/473662

She names =  Youngest son Edward Jones, second son Ellis Jones, eldest son John Jones. Daughter  Elizabeth Fox wife of  John Nesbitt  Fox.

Chester St Presbyterian Church. Bapt
John JONES born -/03/1787 bapt 06/05/1787 son of John Jones and Ann,  ELDEST
Ellis John( Jones ) s/o  John Jones / Ann
Born 1 Nov  1791 bapt 20 Dec 1791 SECOND
Edward JONES -  baptised 18/02/1797 son of John Jones and Ann  YOUNGEST


Now - if yours in Llanfechan in 1841 with  Susannah, he is   Y , born in County. Montgomeryshire, ours was born  Denbighshire.

I can`t find any other Ellis, perhaps you can give us more details.

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Denbighshire / Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« on: Monday 14 November 11 12:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hello/ Bore da
I came across this chat because I am researching Ellis Jones born circa 1791.
He lived most of his life in Llanfair Caerinion but there are family references also to Wrexham.
Interestingly he was listed in the 1841 census as a builder and seems to have been a man of some note as one of his descendants has an oil painting of him looking like a gentleman.
Most of his children migrated to Australia (including my ancestor) and 2 of his sons were builders in New South Wales, building some substantial civic buildings.
I wonder , given the building connection, if this is one and the same Ellis Jones. I believe they were strong Methodists
I would be grateful of any feedback as searching for records from the other side of the world is challenging to say the least.
Thanks
Nick Hall

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: St George in the East
« on: Tuesday 20 April 10 14:10 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the additional names Seamike

Richard, I have emailed the British Library re the service record. No response yet. Is there a way to order it online or do I just have to rely on email? I can't see any other way on their website.

Nick

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Denbighshire Lookup Requests / Re: Wrexham baptism please
« on: Tuesday 20 April 10 08:55 BST (UK)  »
No I don't think he was a convict ( I do have some of those in other branches of the family).
He was a builder

Schmick

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: St George in the East
« on: Monday 19 April 10 14:58 BST (UK)  »
Mr Bem names Jean Daniel as Daniel Vernezobre's eldest son and says he never married.
No mention of a Charles (? died in infancy). The "second" son, David John moved to Russia and went bankrupt in 1764 . He was kept in Russia by his creditors and had 12 children there. Some of these are in the IGI for the British Chaplaincy of St Petersburg but no John Daniel. No mention of whether they returned to England.
Does point more to the Dutch connection I think.

Nick

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: St George in the East
« on: Monday 19 April 10 11:41 BST (UK)  »
Yes I see what you mean.
According to Mr Bem Hannah was the daughter of David John, born ca 1755, Berbice but lived in UK all of his life who married a non-Huguenot Englishwoman (no name!). He was the son of Charles Abraham from the Dutch branch of the family who owned a plantation in Berbice, Surinam. It was the site of a major slave rebellion in 1762 forcing them to leave. "Hannah Vernezobre-Burke was the last of the family in the UK"
Frustrating the lack of details on this family in the UK.
Nick

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Denbighshire Lookup Requests / Re: Wrexham baptism please
« on: Sunday 18 April 10 13:29 BST (UK)  »
No luck with census records

Schmick

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: St George in the East
« on: Sunday 18 April 10 13:24 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all the information
Nick

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: St George in the East
« on: Sunday 18 April 10 12:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Richard

I now have a copy of Mr Bem's article - a very comprehensive look at the family.
Unfortunately the information fades out before my ancestor but I will keep trying.
I have left messages by 2 methods for Mr Bem but no response so far.

Nick

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