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Armed Forces / Re: Attic Find - Red and Black Hackle
« on: Thursday 15 November 18 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon,

As a general rule plumes are longer and straighter than hackles.

Hackles are usually made from chicken feathers but can be horsehair, particularly the guards regts. They are worn mostly by infantry regts and have a wire loop at the bottom to fit on the beret behind the cap badge.

Plumes are usually made from horsehair but can be feather. Some are extremely long, household cavalry and dragoons, and flow downwards from the helmet. The bottom has the peg type bottom end like yours, this fits into a socket built into the busby. Hussars, RHA, RAF band etc.

I can find no reference to a red over black one for the british army but have not yet found anything on yeomanry. The only one that colour I have found is in the Pakistani army. It is possible that someone in your family served with them, officer or warrant officer rank and maybe senior NCO.

So I would say yours is a plume made of feathers. Scots regts who wear a hackle usually have them made from blackcock tail feathers hence the distinctive curves turning outwards.

Hope this helps you, John915

Armed Forces / Re: Attic Find - Red and Black Hackle
« on: Monday 12 November 18 15:59 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon,

Looks like the plume from a cavalry busby (hussars) or RHA busby. Hackles are feathers normally as far as I know.


The Common Room / Re: What did you do on Armistice Centenary Day?
« on: Monday 12 November 18 15:34 GMT (UK)  »
Good afternoon,

I was at our local church as usual with the standard. Church was full to bursting with people standing at the back.

Moved outside to the war memorial at 1045 for the act of remembrance and again a lot more people than usual attended that part. At the end the vicar said " the Victory has laid on tea and biscuits" for those who want to go over. They are expecting about 30 which is roughly the number we get each year. There were more than twice that yesterday.

I didn't go over as I had to go to the other local church and lay the wreath there.


World War One / Re: WW1 cap badge
« on: Tuesday 09 October 18 21:30 BST (UK)  »
Good evening,

I think you are spot on Jebber, didn't see that one in the collection I looked at.


World War One / Re: WW1 cap badge
« on: Tuesday 09 October 18 00:06 BST (UK)  »
Good morning,

I would say RE, it is just so out of focus but all the elements are there.


World War One / Re: WW1 horse spurs
« on: Sunday 07 October 18 22:35 BST (UK)  »
Good evening,

Standard British army issue spurs did not have a swan neck stem. It was straight and only about half the length of that shown. The spurs were worn above the heel, below the ankle bone with a chain under the instep and a leather strap over the top. So no need for a swan neck.

The swan neck suggests it was worn lower on the boot and so lifts the rowel clear of the ground when on foot.

Officers wore the same style although purchased except in dress uniform. This spur had a peg opposite the stem which was inserted in a hole in the back of the boot heel with a screw going in each side of the heel.

I have seen some Australian spurs that looked like the one shown but not sure which unit now. They were worn in the same way as ours.


The Lighter Side / Re: True or false?
« on: Thursday 20 September 18 19:40 BST (UK)  »
Good evening,

Fullers earth is one of the finest powders when ground. Hence it's use in talcum powder at one time if not still used.

Also used by the armed forces in special pads to use as a first line defence against chemical agent droplets on the skin and clothing. BLOT, BANG, RUB over the affected area to gather up the droplets.


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: The HARPIST
« on: Wednesday 25 July 18 16:01 BST (UK)  »
Good afternoon,

The building with extra story and altered roof was there in 1914, see page 2 of Francis Frith photos.

In the 60s it was the pub as I remember it which was single story and stood further away from the rd junction.

As Dobfarms link shows, the new flats have been built right out to the pavement. Scan left on that link towards the bridge, the building with a row of low windows is, or was, the corn store cafe.

I don't think the station hotel exists anymore either. It's all retail outlets of different sorts along there now.


World War Two / Re: RAC to 3rd Carabiniers - India/Burma
« on: Monday 23 July 18 22:56 BST (UK)  »
Good evening,

I'm working from memory here but as far as I recall it is as follow. The cavalry regts then in existence did not create extra squadrons in the same way as the infantry had extra battalions during the wars. They remained as they were albiet at war time strength.

To create more armoured units some infantry battalions were retrained on armour and became RAC regts. Possibly with nos rather than names. Their cap badge was the mailed fist with two arrows encircling it on each side and surmounted by the kings crown.

After ww2 they were disbanded and the last regt I know of to wear that cap badge was the Junior Leaders Regt RAC. We wore that badge until the  final term when we wore the cap badge of the regt we elected to go into.


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