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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Sunday 31 March 24 22:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi Forfarian

Yes I agree it is very important to verify information from trees in Ancestry. I had not done this earlier as it is only more recently that I have been finding multiple DNA matches.

I do remember (and documented ) that the tree I had originally seen and thought quite reliable was a  McSeveny tree (by Oldcummock of Ayrshire Scotland). That tree had John William Henry's father as William Henry or Hendry but when I asked her, she could not verify a source.

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Sunday 31 March 24 10:55 BST (UK)  »
There are several hints that have that date of birth for Agnes as 29 Mar 1824 though one of them is for Geneanet Community trees and it has birth location as Castle Douglas, Kirkudbright. Another has a photo of the old Kirkoswald Chuch but gives the same location; castle Douglas.

The actual shipping record for Sep 1838 gives her age as 15 so I have stayed with a birth c 1823. ZAgnes' age is not stated  on her marriage record for 25 Mar 1840. Death index record for 1865 does not give her age.

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Sunday 31 March 24 06:35 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Forfarian.

I had guessed that was what you had done to search McSeveny and tried it for those two births but was not sure the negative results was because I did not get it right. So just looked for  all Johns born Kirkoswald in a narrow time period.  I don't mind the sifting.

It was getting a but lite for me by that time though, so I did not try the H*n*r* until this morning with as you predicted lots of Hendersons. Still no Agnes however.I did find Thomas Henry b 1826 with that search, so it worked. My best guess for the father of John William Henry would be the one other Shanrod Henry brother mentioned in the Nesbitt History. He was a Thomas Henry.

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 10:30 GMT (UK)  »
However I cannot confirm either McSeveny or variant birth in Kirkoswald  from Scotlands People, so I will delete that note.

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Forfarian

Yes I think it is likely a mistranscription by the clerk. I have not checked yet but  from someone I must have got the information that Margaret may have been born in Scotland c 1807. A younger brother, John McSeveny was born Kirkoswald in1809

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 10:15 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you again Forfarian

I was just about to say the only correction I have for the dates for the children is that Scotlands People have 26 Sep 1836 for William Henry.

Adamea, Edemia seems to have various spellings for her name.

I have not found the fist Agnes in Ayrshire but haven't tried all the different version of Henry.

I was typing this when Trish posted. So it didn't send.

I will just add that  the source for the letter from John William Henry written from Jamberoo in 1840 was a book with a transcript of that letter.

“The History of the Nesbitt Family sometime resident in the townland of Corglass” by Robert Nesbitt. JP. 1930. Robert was the Robert Nesbitt b c1855 who married a granddaughter of James Henry b 1798

James Henry was the oldest brother of my 3x gt grandfather Bryce Henry. Apparently James was born in Scotland in 1798 because his father Brice Henry had sent his wife Mary nee Nelson to Scotland for safety,  away from the Irish uprising of 1798. Brice himself may have been a little involved  in the uprising. The family of Mary Nelson of Garvaghy's were also from Scotland according to Robert nesbitt.

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 09:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Forfarian. Just in time as fortunately I kept making mistakes (like looking in state recirds instead of church records) and had not yet got to the marriage. It was going to be a long shot anyway as I thought it might not show the name of John's father.

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 09:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Trish

Yes that is him.Thank you. Interesting it says native of Glasgow. I will now go spend some money on the marriage.

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Ayrshire / Re: John William Henry marriage 1824 ro Margaret McSeveny
« on: Saturday 30 March 24 09:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Kay

I will go back to the marriages after I update my records with the Kirkoswald dates if births  for the children. Most briths show their mother as Margaret Savany.

It may be worth actually viewing  that marriage.

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