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World War One / Re: Unidentified People in Old Photos
« on: Thursday 22 February 18 05:24 GMT (UK)  »

I'm so glad to hear that you've identified a relative in the photo. I've had the photo up in various places around the internet for six or seven years, and this is the first time anyone in it has been recognized. Alas, I don't have any other group photos of my grandfather during WWI.

Aberdeenshire / Re: Jane Olochland or Olachlin
« on: Monday 25 June 12 05:49 BST (UK)  »
Thinking about the possible Irish connection, and finding no trace of any other Scottish records of an Olachlin family, I considered the possibility that Jane Olachlin had moved alone to Scotland from Ireland not too long before getting married, consistent with no evidence of any of her family in Scotland.

I took a look at

Searching for birth and baptism records of Jane Olachlin and alternative forms between 1793 and 1807, I got ten hits, none of them having the actual name, and none with names beginning with "O".

The names which turned up were McLaghlin, McLaughlin (3), Loughlin (2), Loughlane, MacLoughlin, Laughlin and MacLoghlin.

This is rather discouraging. However, it does indicate that the search algorithm on the Irish site considers the Irish prefix "O" to be equivalent to "Mc" and "Mac". I've long known that these have equivalent meanings, "the son of," or something like that. What I didn't know was that they were interchangeable in the sense one could morph into the other.

Aberdeenshire / Re: Jane Olochland or Olachlin
« on: Sunday 24 June 12 07:49 BST (UK)  »
I typed in Jane Olachlin in the advanced search box in the pre 1855 marriages & banns at Scotlands People and the record of the marriage between Maria Point and James Buyers in 1852 still comes up. This means that Jane Olachlin is indeed Maria's mother, and that there are now two instances of that spelling of the name.

Now, I will continue to look for records of Jane Olachlin's birth marriage and death.

Aberdeenshire / Re: Jane Olochland or Olachlin
« on: Sunday 24 June 12 01:15 BST (UK)  »
I entered the two variant spellings into Google and came up with the following:



It looks to me from the above that Olachlin is closer to the right version. It seems that only Lochland is a likely surname, as opposed to Olochland. In any case, the name seems likely to be Irish in origin.

At least Olachlin appears to be an established surname on some level to have the entry which Ancestry provides for it.

Aberdeenshire / Jane Olochland or Olachlin
« on: Saturday 23 June 12 23:31 BST (UK)  »
I have recently run across information that indicates that Jane Olochland (Olachlin) is likely my GGG grandmother.

From pre 1855 Births and Baptisms, I find a record of a christening 11 Sep 1825 in Aberdeen for John Poynt, son of John Poynt and Jane Olochland.

From pre 1855 Births and Baptisms, I find a record of a christening 12 Mar 1827 for Maria Point, daughter of John Point and Jane Olachlin. Maria Point and John Point are my GG grandparents.

Has anyone heard of the surnames given for John Point's apparent wife, Jane? Is either of the two spellings I've found likely to be more accurate than the other, or are they both possible wrong?

I can't find any other records of Jane Olochland (Olachlin), birth or marriage to John Point (Poynt).

I'd be grateful for any clues to turn up more information on Jane O.

Aberdeenshire / Re: Maria Point
« on: Saturday 23 June 12 23:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all the information, everyone.

I have confirmed that John Point married Elizabeth Thomson in May 1831 from pre 1855 Banns & Marriages.

I can find no death record for him, but he does not appear in the 1841 or later censuses.

I am going to start a separate thread for Jane Olochland or Olachlin, who was apparently his first wife, and the mother of John Point and Maria Point, the two different spellings coming from their two christening records.

I had been thinking of Elizabeth Point (nee Thomson) as my GGG grandmother for the last few years, but now realize that she was very likely not.

Aberdeenshire / Maria Point
« on: Saturday 23 June 12 04:09 BST (UK)  »
Maria Point was my GG grandmother. She was born or christened on 12 Mar 1827 in Aberdeen, and married to James Buyers 12 Jan 1852 in St. Nicholas, Aberdeen.

She is shown in the 1841 census, living with Elizabeth Point, John Point and Hannah Point. John Point and Hannah Point are siblings. Elizabeth Point is shown living with Hannah Point in the 1851 census, and indicated as her mother. So I had assumed Elizabeth Point was Maria's mother. But now I have found a record on FamilySearch indicating that her parents were John Point and Jane Olachlin with a christening date of 12 Mar 1827 in St. Nicholas, Aberdeen.

I have found a record of a John Point marrying an Elizabeth in May 1831 in Old Machar, Aberdeen.

So my surmise is that Jane Olachlin died and John Point remarried someone named Elizabeth. Since he is not shown with Elizabeth and Hannah in the 1851 census, I assume that he either died or left the country.

Does anyone have any suggestions for obtaining more information on this family?

Thanks for any assistance on this.


World War One / Re: Unidentified People in Old Photos
« on: Thursday 15 December 11 06:48 GMT (UK)  »

Interesting that you mention he was an early member. This is consistent with the background, which is as follows. He emigrated to Canada in 1908, where he met and married my grandmother in 1910. In May 1913, my grandmother sailed for Scotland with the two children (the younger dying on the voyage), my grandfather left for Scotland a few months later, and may have signed up before the outbreak of the war. My grandmother remained in Aberdeen with her mother for the duration of the war, and two more children, including my mother were born there. They all sailed for Canada in 1919.

I had always believed that the war was the reason they were all in the U.K. until a couple of years ago, when I found the passenger lists indicating they had left Canada in 1913. Now I don't know why they left. The other thing I had always believed was that he had been in the Canadian forces, not the British forces. Seeing my mother's birth record from Aberdeen corrected that.

Is there some way to find out the date he signed up?

Thanks very much for the information.

World War One / Re: Unidentified People in Old Photos
« on: Wednesday 14 December 11 23:09 GMT (UK)  »
T mo,

I hunted around to find the original photo to rescan, as blowing up the image I have didn't seem to bring out enough detail on the insignia. I'm playing around with the contrast etc. on the rescan to try to get maximum detail, but my scanner only goes up to 1200 DPI. Not sure how much more detail is in the photo; it's not in very good condition. The photo is one of those postcards which were so common in that era.

What I have determined so far is that the first two characters on the shoulder insignia look like HY to me, the rest being a shiny blur. I'm less sure of the 2nd character.

Will post the rescans when I get finished trying to improve them. Have to go out for a few hours.

Thanks for all the help people have posted so far.

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