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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Copley of Bredon, Wordestershire
« on: Sunday 16 September 18 19:05 BST (UK)  »
Don't know, but I have seen hatchments where there have been multiple wives and they are shown either side of the husband - but even then there doesn't't seem to be a specific pattern to follow.

Liz

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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Copley of Bredon, Wordestershire
« on: Sunday 16 September 18 18:37 BST (UK)  »
Yes I think it is Newport - she was Thomas' first wife! Margaret Newport, daughter of George.

Gules on a canton Argent a fleur de lis Sable.

Liz

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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Copley of Bredon, Wordestershire
« on: Sunday 16 September 18 18:25 BST (UK)  »
KGarrad - I hadn't seen your reply ... yes I agree - moorcocks the arms of Middlemore I think which fits with it being for his second wife who would be put on the left?

Liz

ADDED - maybe a bit of canting going on with the MOORcocks and MiddleMORE? ;D

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Heraldry Crests and Coats of Arms / Re: Copley of Bredon, Wordestershire
« on: Sunday 16 September 18 18:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

It doesn't answer your question (yet) but the arms on the tomb are, in the centre, those of Thomas Copley himself and the ones on the right as you look at it: his, impaled with those of his first wife, who predeceased him (Margaret Newport), and those on the left are his impaled with those of his second wife, Eleanor Middlemore.

The central arms (Thomas') which are quartered are puzzling because the 2nd quarter appears to be for Abberbury (Suffolk) but I can't find any reference to that in the Copley history. The 3rd quarter is possibly Eaton of Worcestershire, or Haughton of Lancs amongst other places. But nothing to link them to Yorkshire or Surrey??

Although there appear to have bene several genealogies drawn up for the Copley's they don't seem to reflect those arms ... perhaps they were not "officially" inherited in the conventional way?

Liz

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA results & Olive skin
« on: Sunday 16 September 18 16:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

My Uncle's Y-DNA haplogroup (certainly amongst anyone who has tested) is very rare and does trace back to Scandinavia) - he is proud of his uniqueness!  ::)

Agreed that line is unlikely to show up in the autosomal DNA as the Isted's have been here for so many hundreds of years but I have a couple other branches of non-Isted in my tree, which are more recent (last couple of hundred years) that are from northern Germany / borders of Denmark and which seem to have disappeared from Ancestry's list - on both Mum and Dad's side.

Liz

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: DNA results & Olive skin
« on: Friday 14 September 18 16:31 BST (UK)  »
I have known Danish ancestry (and this is verified by my Uncle's Y-DNA - and he is very much my Uncle!) but Ancestry has now decided that I no longer have any Scandinavian DNA at all - very strange - but I am taking this with a fairly large pinch of salt and going with the paper trail and the few facts I am slowly gaining from my Uncle's and my Dad's tests.

Liz


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The Common Room / Re: Early organ donor?
« on: Friday 07 September 18 19:27 BST (UK)  »
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no escutcheons (not sure what they are)

An escutcheon is the shield part of a coat of arms - presumably the chap was armigerous (ie was permitted to bear arms) but he didn't want his arms displayed on the family vault?

Liz

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The Common Room / Re: find my godmother
« on: Monday 27 August 18 15:41 BST (UK)  »
I have just thought - you say your father died in 1961 but also that he cashed in the Bonds - that wouldn't have been possible if she didn't die until 1963?

Looks like you may need to get the will to see what exactly you were left  perhaps - or did she give them to you for a birthday or something?

Liz

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The Common Room / Re: find my godmother
« on: Monday 27 August 18 15:30 BST (UK)  »
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What is crazy about where she dies, Bournemouth, that is where i live!

 ;D

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