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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Dowse/Douse of Hampshire, England
« on: Tuesday 24 July 18 00:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I do not have a 1755-ish Cuthbert in my tree.  The Edwin Dowse I do have is too young to have married in 1783.  Maybe there are cousins with those names, but I haven't been able to find enough children on the line to flesh out a list of descendants.

The line of descent as I have it is Simon/Prudence to Cuthbert (wife unknown), Cuthbert to Thomas (wife unknown), Thomas to John (wife Jane Bay?), John to Edward (wife Rachel Bishop), Edward to Thomas (wife Ann Whitenham), Thomas to Peter (wife Mary Shawyer), and Peter to our Mary Anna who married Charles Horner in 1847.

Are you referring to http://knightroots.co.uk/ ?  I didn't find any Dowse or Douse on there.

Quote from: paco on Monday 23 July 18 17:25 BST (UK)
Using the Knighroots site I found Culbert-probably your Cuthbert marrying Elizabeth Colbourne 17/8/1755; Edwin Dowse marrying Elizabeth Houghton 27/4/1783; John Dowse marrying Mary Kill 12/6/1797. Simon and Prudence married 4/6/1628 by licence. On the FreeREG site there is a lot of information for the Dowse family.
Regards.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Dowse/Douse of Hampshire, England
« on: Friday 20 July 18 03:33 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to find out more about the Dowse family. My 3rd gr grandmother was a Mary Anna Dowse (m. Charles Horner). I was able to trace the family back to my 10th gr grandparents, Simon Douse and Prudence Ringe, married June 1628 at Saint Swithun Over Kingsgate, Winchester, and descended through their son Cuthbert. The family seems to have been based in Bishop's Waltham for a long time. Does anyone have any history about the family?

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Scotland / Re: Language help? 16-17th century
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 06:07 BST (UK)  »
I've noticed that names got reused a lot with child deaths.

Quote from: Rosinish on Tuesday 05 June 18 05:59 BST (UK)
Quote from: Rosinish on Tuesday 05 June 18 03:32 BST (UK)
GEILLEIS MARGRAT
PATRIK GEILLEIS/JENET LAUCHWARET FR52 (FR52)
25/09/1636
735/10 89 Duns

Seems they had 2 daughters with  same name, possibly 1st died or 2 different entries, one with wrong date?

Margrat Geilleis was born to Patrik Geilleis and Jenet Lauchwaret.
Baptized 1636

Margrat Gilleis was born to Patrik Gilleis and Jenet Lauchwaret
Baptized 1639

Annie

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Scotland / Re: Language help? 16-17th century
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 05:15 BST (UK)  »
Lockhart had briefly crossed my mind as perhaps -warit could have slurred to -arrit and -art phonetically but it really seemed a stretch and most of my surname lookups gave the impression that it had a German base - possible in England but much less common in Scotland.

As for tracing down the siblings, it's a good idea but I have yet to get parents for her.  :P

Quote from: philipsearching on Tuesday 05 June 18 04:46 BST (UK)
the transcriptions found by Annie (Rosinish) LAWCHWARIT, LAWCHNARET, LAWCHWARETdon't immediately point to any Scottish surname I have found on surname lists.

Except....perhaps...just perhaps...a remote possibilty..... LOCKHART (and that's pushing it a bit!)

I wonder if it would be possible top find a male sibling of Jenet (or any male with the same surname) and tracking children forward a few generations to see how the name developed.

Philip

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Scotland / Re: Language help? 16-17th century
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 05:11 BST (UK)  »
Wow, TY very much for all this extra stuff.  As for the records, said cousin goes to the office in Edinburgh, pays for access to the files, and manually transcribes what she finds.  I guess it's what works when you're in research mode and have to look at many things to confirm, deny, or otherwise trace the family line.

Quote from: Rosinish on Tuesday 05 June 18 03:40 BST (UK)
Kids for Thomas;

GEILLEIS WILLIAME
THOMAS GEILLEIS/JENET ALLINE FR116 (FR116)
29/01/1654
735/10 213 Duns

GEILLEIS -----(No name)
THOMAS GEILLEIS/JENET ALLINE FR126 (FR126)
10/12/1655
735/10 228 Duns

Annie

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Scotland / Re: Language help? 16-17th century
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 03:15 BST (UK)  »
Costs are a factor.  Even my cousin, another amateur genealogist who actually lives in Scotland, makes due with the extracts because of cost.   :(

Quote from: Rosinish on Tuesday 05 June 18 03:11 BST (UK)
It may be worth getting the original from SP to actually see it as it may be mistranscribed or show something different to a surname?

GEILLEIS THOMAS
PATRIK GEILLEIS/JENET LAWCHWARIT FR40
13/05/1632
735/10 63
Duns

Annie

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Scotland / Re: Language help? 16-17th century
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 02:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi, thanks for the suggestion but I don't have a doc.  This was an online record of baptism of her son Thomas (b. 1632) in Dunse, Berwickshire from ancestry.com.  Thomas himself was married by the early 1650's to a Janet Alline who had originated in Loth, Sutherland and their son William was born in Dunse in early 1653.  I'm just really stumped by 'Lawchwarit' since it's so different to anything I've seen or heard before.

Quote from: Rosinish on Tuesday 05 June 18 01:44 BST (UK)
I think it may be an idea to post an image with some extra script for comparison for us to see as it doesn't look like a surname, rather a place name?
What is the doc, where did you get it & where was the marriage?

Annie

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Scotland / Language help? 16-17th century
« on: Tuesday 05 June 18 01:14 BST (UK)  »
Help!  I'm looking to find out what a name is from my family tree.  I'm not sure if the origin is Gaelic or simply old Scotch, and spelling in those days wasn't a sure thing, a lot of phonetics abounded.  The name is Lawchwarit and it was the maiden name of my 11th gr grandmother who appears to have been born in Berwickshire.  I had a mini epiphany lately that perhaps Lawch might have been Loch but I'm still stuck on the warit part.  It would also be nice to know what the name might have become with the advent of regular spelling.  If specifics are needed, my ancestress was Janet Lawchwarit, b. ~1612, and she ended up married to Patrik Geillies (Gillies).  TIA!

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Europe / Place question please
« on: Sunday 17 September 17 15:42 BST (UK)  »
You know how you get different answers on where a person was born, maybe one was the formal name, another may have been the small, local name?  I think I just ran into that.  Does anyone know what Gros Krotz...burg, Germany might have been?  It was on a NY marriage register in the 1880's.  TIA!

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