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Tipperary / Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« on: Tuesday 17 April 18 06:36 BST (UK)  »
To Northwest26
Thanks for your reply to my personal message Northwest26 ... the reason you don't see it on the forum is because it is private communiation between the two of us! 
I am convinced that the Mr Dalton you refer to as Maurice Dalton who was accidentally killed by the runaway trap in 1869 is my James Dalton,  I will send you details of this later.
My husband's grandmother, Winifred Dalton, was a sister to Mary Dalton Crowe, wife of John Crowe. So, yes, we are connected to this family of Corregemore.  However more on that later, as well.  I really wanted to reply as soon as I could so you could see that your message had reached me.  I will next send you a PM and we can then get stuck into these families!  So glad you replied!

Tipperary / Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 00:43 BST (UK)  »
Thanks AherlowFamily ... just gatheirng my thoughts as we speak!  So glad I was browsing yesterday!
Will send you the photo immediately!

Kilkenny / Re: Kelly of Killaree Kilkenny
« on: Friday 13 April 18 10:52 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Chinapaddy ... they are all or mostly all, just biding their time in the graveyard waiting for someone to come and visit so they can tell their story ... do hope it happens soon!

Kilkenny / Re: Kelly of Killaree Kilkenny
« on: Friday 13 April 18 04:16 BST (UK)  »
Well, nothing further re the newspaper article, but further information re the family!
The townland of Kilaree/Killaree Three Castles, Kilkenny was the home of my farming Kelly family for several generations with the earliest identified ancestor being that of Edmond Kelly [1769-1865] and his wife, Anne McEvoy.  Both Edmond and Anne died in 1865 and are buried in Tulla Churchyard, Killaree. Their eldest son, James married Bridget Phelan in 1845 and the couple migrated to South Australia with their family in 1859. I am descended from James and Bridget.
Edmond's daughter, Bridget, married Michael Kerwick in 1858, his son, John, married Julia Fleming ~1866, his son Edmond died 1904 aged 85 and is recorded at Tulla Churhyard, while the youngest son, Michael was baptised 1828 and nothing further is known [nor is he recorded on the Kelly stone in the Tulla Churchyard].
There is also a Daniel Kelly lurking somewhere!  He appears on the Tithe Applotment Books 1826 [common interest in 'Hill Farm'] with Edmund and again on the 1848/1849 Griffiths Valuation, but has disappeared from Killaree by the late 1850's early 1860's.  'Daniel' does not appear to be a name associated with our family.  I have tried in vain to trace Daniel of course, he could've migrated,
I would appreciated any information whatsoever regarding how to track this Kelly family.

Tipperary / Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« on: Friday 10 March 17 04:43 GMT (UK)  »
I sincerely thank Maggsie for her personal message and Mary Dalton information also myluck and dathai for such indepth research and follow-ups ... my new Dalton/Crowe knowedge has surpassed any expectations.  Everything so much appreciated. Thankyou.

Tipperary / Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« on: Thursday 09 March 17 13:21 GMT (UK)  »
This forum is amazing ... thank you MyLuck ... you have added yet further information to our knowledge.  It was great to get the death date of Michael and to learn he was unmarried... so presumably no Dalton descendants from that line.  I wonder if his brother James b ~ 1879 turns up anywhere on the records?   Hanora Dalton who married John Godfrey in Tipperary in 1873 is probably Patrick's sister.  In my initial message I said that Mary was the only daughter of Patrick and Hanora Dalton of Corregemore... I should have said she was their only daughter living in Ireland at the time.  Mary's older sister, Winifred, migrated to Australia in 1903 and married Charles Mohr in Queensland in 1906.  She died Denmark Western Australia in 1966. 
Well, off I go again ... I still have to see what the National Archives have to offer ...
Your time and knowledge and direction ... again,  very much appreciated.

Tipperary / Re: Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« on: Thursday 09 March 17 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
Blimey, I simply cannot believe my eyes.  When I clicked on the link a half an hour ago, all this family information seemingly tumbled out.  It was truly spine-tingling stuff!  I cannot thank you enough, dathai - your time, your knowledge and expertise is so much appreciated by me and also my family when I get this new informaton to them.  Your research has answered many of my queries and my knowledge of the Crowe family has grown to include another generation.  It would appear as if the Dalton farm at Corrogemore was still in the Crowe family until at least 1961 when John Crowe died.  I am yet to see what the documentation at the National Archives will provide.  Cannot wait to pursue this direction.  Again many thanks.

Tipperary / Dalton/Crowe Corrogemore Tipperary
« on: Thursday 09 March 17 00:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all
I am seeking information regarding Dalton/Crowe of Corrogemore Tipperary.  My Dalton family lived and farmed in the townland of Corrogemore from at least the 1850's to 1911.  Patrick and Hanora Dalton's only daughter, Mary, married William Crowe sometime after the 1911 Census [Mary would've been aged about 28 in 1911].  It is known that William and Mary had a son, also named William. It is also known that William and Mary eventually purchased the Dalton Corrogemore farm.  I have no further information on these families, except to add that Mary's brothers, James and Michael Dalton were known to have worked in Tipperary Town Post Office sometime between the 1890's and 1911.
Any help and suggestions for further research will be most appreciated

Kilkenny / Kelly of Killaree Kilkenny
« on: Saturday 09 April 16 12:32 BST (UK)  »
I am stunned by the attached newspaper article [The Clonmel Herald 21 Feb 1835] I recently located regarding my ggggrandfather, Edmund Kelly, farmer of Killaree.  I would be most appreciative if members of this forum would 'interpret' it for me.  I am struggling with the idea that 'a large body of men - between 40 and 50 persons' were needed to whisk the young lady off in the middle of the night. Similarly, I am baffled as to why it was deemed necessary to re enter the room and "beat Kelly and another man most severely.'  Is this a political rather than a romantic escapade?  While I have not been able to locate the coverage of the trial which would possibly answer some of my questions, I did find [Clonmel Herald 15 Apr 1835] where four men were tried at the Kilkenny Assizes and found guilty under the coercion act of being absent from their dwellings at unlawful hours on the night of the 14th February. 
Many thanks, patDEN in Western Australia

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