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Sussex / BARNETT/GUNTER - Puzzle in Peasmarsh
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 16:40 BST (UK)  »
Dear Sussex Rootschatters

I'd welcome your thoughts about the following conundrum please.  Basically, am I justified in thinking that these people are all part of one happy family?

All the following records are taken from the SFHG Sussex Marriage Index and the Data Archive, but I have not looked at the actual registers.

9 October 1780 St. Mary Udimore - John Barnet GONTER (sic) married Hannah REEVES botp

Baptism in Udimore
14 October 1783 Elizabeth BARNET/Elizabeth GUNTER d. of John GUNTER & Hannah BARNET

Burials in Udimore none relevant

Baptisms in Peasmarsh
21 November 1784 William son of John & Hannah BARNET
29 January 1786 John son of John Gunter BARNET & Hannah BARNET
2 May 1790 Sarah GUNTER daughter of John GUNTER & Hannah Barnet GUNTER
14 August 1791 Hannah GUNTER daughter of John GUNTER & Hannah Barnet GUNTER
1 December 1805 Mahala Neeves BARNETT baseborn child of Sarah BARNETT

Marriages in Peasmarsh
2 June 1805 Elizabeth Barnett GUNTER m. William HOOK
12 June 1813 Hannah BARNETT m. Richard HOOK, widower

Burials in Peasmarsh
12 December 1829 Hannah BARNETT aged 76 (therefore born 1752/3)
5 December 1831 John BARNETT aged 74 (therefore born 1756/7)
No GUNTER burials

Apart from her baptism there is no other record of a Sarah GUNTER in Peasmarsh.

I'd be grateful to know what you think.

The Common Room / Re: Ancestry - information added to my family tree not by me
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 12:10 BST (UK)  »
What strikes me about all this is that these trees are never really 'Private' but open to all sorts of hacking and abuse however you try to protect them.  Ancestry (or whoever) are the real owners of 'your' information once you give it to them. 

Just glad I never have.


The Common Room / Re: Birth on the index twice
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 12:04 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I agree.  Bookbox was ordering an 'historic' certificate for research purposes.  I was talking about a person wanting a certificate for his/her own use and therefore needing one from the second registration, showing up-dated personal information.


The Common Room / Re: Birth on the index twice
« on: Saturday 20 October 18 10:01 BST (UK)  »
I have come across a birth registered in the same quarter and year ( still living) but as the parents weren't married one entry was in the mother's surname and the other in the father's surname.
First names are the same

So one person has two birth certs!

I wouldn't have believed this could happen legally   

Quote finishes here.

All certificates are copies of entries in the register.  If the person re-registered already has a copy certificate (of the first entry) it will still be valid, but future copies will be produced from the second (amended) entry.

There is always a lot of confusion about the original registration(s) and the copies made from it/them!!  There's nothing illegal going on at all.


The Common Room / Re: Birth on the index twice
« on: Friday 19 October 18 17:51 BST (UK)  »
And copy certificates will be made from the later entries, which show that the parents are married to each other.


Essex / Re: RANKIN in Rayne
« on: Friday 12 October 18 15:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi Brian

Thanks for your message.  You are right, my research has moved on since this thread.  I found out about the Rankins/Chatters links.  But I've eliminated them from my enquiries because I'm now convinced that the Emma Rankin I'm interested in is not the daughter of John Rankin after all, but of John Boardman and Sarah Rankin; she was born 23 September 1821 and baptised 17 March 1822 at the Independent Chapel in Braintree.

My problem now is pinning down her mother Sarah Rankin!

Thanks again,

World War One / Re: Help Please to search The London Gazette
« on: Wednesday 10 October 18 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi Philip

That's great!  Thank you so much.

I thought it might be me not doing something right, and it obviously was!


World War One / Help Please to search The London Gazette
« on: Wednesday 10 October 18 15:38 BST (UK)  »
I'm getting nowhere with a search in the London Gazette and wondered whether anyone could help me please.

I'm searching for the citation for Archibald GARRETT a Sergeant in the Royal Garrison Artillery, Regimental No. 75533, who was awarded the Meritorious Service Medal, listed in the Peace Gazette, which I understand was dated 3rd June 1919. 

I have all the information but I cannot make the search work, whatever criteria I use! The date filters are faulty anyway, but I have managed to find the correct Issue number (I think) - 31390.

I am willing to believe it's just me being useless!  :-[

Thanks for any help or advice anyone can give.


Sussex / Re: "Philadelphia" as a christian name
« on: Wednesday 03 October 18 16:51 BST (UK)  »
My Sussex Philadelphias were baptised into Lady Huntingdon's Connexion (strict Wesleyans).  Perhaps that is significant too.


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