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You don't say whether you have a copy of the 1896 marriage certificate for Edward Wilkinson and Hannah/Annie, but this might possibly give a clue as to who her father was.

I have a possible sighting of Hannah in Dewsbury in the 1871 census as Ann Ellis, aged 1, a boarder with a family named Smith (RG10/4601 fo129 p28). This was the first possible one that I saw, so it would be wise to check my findings and see if there were any others.

It would be worth looking to see if anyone in the Smith household (or wherever else you might spot her) had Ellis connections, in case she was related. Similarly, have you investigated any possible connections the Allotts might have had to anyone called Ellis?

Where adoption happened or is suspected, it's always worth looking for wills, since an informally adopted child cannot inherit anything from an adoptive parent unless specifically provided for in a will, and such a will might even have clues about the child's origins. In this case you're in luck, as both Henry and Ellen Allott appear to have left wills - he in 1912 and she in 1915, if I have the right ones. You can view the indexes and order copies at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Thank you so much Arthur.
I did get their marriage certificate and her father's name is possibly Matthew Ellis, labourer possibly b. 1845.  There is a marriage record for a Matthew Ellis to Mary Jane Kaye (widow) nee Dealtry b.1847 married 11/06//1867. But I'm not certain these people are her parents.
That's interesting information on the wills, I will look that up. I have tried to see if there were any relatives to Henry or Ellen who may be related to Hannah.  Ellen's maiden name was Naylor. Still looking.
I really appreciate your assistance. Kind regards, June

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I've had a look at your tree in Ancestry and going by Hannah's siblings and surname mis-spellings for the mother this is the best I could find.
The GRO now give the MMN 

Hannah Ellis 1869 J quarter Dewsbury Volume 09B - 616 MMN Dawtery
Regards Carolanne

Many thanks for that information Carolanne, I'll investigate that. kind regards June

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Hi,
I'm trying to find any birth records for my Great Grandmother, Hannah (Annie) Ellis or records of her parents. She was born in 1870 possibly in Dewsbury. She is on the 1881 census for Moor End Lane, Dewsbury and 1891 census for Victoria Street, Heckmondwike. She lived with Henry and Ellen Allott as adopted daughter. She married my Great Grandfather, Edward Wilkinson in George Street Independent Chapel in Heckmondwike on 26/05/1896 and moved to Dublin Ireland soon after. They had three children, Edward Clement, Blanche Olive (my grandmother) and Henry Riley. They travelled back to Heckmondwike to have each of them baptised at the George Street Independent Chapel. My Grandmother, Blanche Olive Wilkinson was born 05/10/1903 and baptised in 07/08/1904.  Edward Clement was baptised 07/08/1898 and Henry Riley 08/08/1909. I understand this chapel is non-conformist or Methodist and is now a mosque.  I have drawn a blank on my G.Grandmother and I understand adoption records didn't really exist for that period. I have a possible record of her being born in the Asylum area of Dewsbury on 02/03/1870 but I'm not certain this is her. Any information or advice on where to look next would be gratefully received. Many thanks - June

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Berkshire / Re: Maccabee family/Newbury
« on: Sunday 16 April 17 14:40 BST (UK)  »
Has anyone got information on a Maccabee that may have moved to Ireland in the 1800s possibly to Bailieborough, Co. Cavan. I've drawn a blank and can only trace my Maccabee ancestor to 1833 born in Co. Cavan, name William Henry Maccabee married to Margaret Clarke in 1857.  His father was possibly James Maccabee. They had several children with similar names to the Maccabees in Berkshire such as Reginald, Frederick, Henry so maybe they originally hailed from Berkshire. My uncle and his son are the only Maccabees left in Ireland and it'd be great to find the gap in our history.  Thanks.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1700s birstall and batley
« on: Wednesday 04 April 12 13:24 BST (UK)  »
Yes I haven't found any wealthy ancestors yet either! LOL Still its interesting to find out what they were doing. Jeremiah junior was a Foreman in the Rug & Seal Factory and his son (my great grandfather) Edward was a printer and Hannah is wife was a weaver.  I'd really like to find out why they moved to Ireland but I'm not sure I'll ever find that out.   I'm also trying to find out more about Hannah's family but not much to go on (maiden name was Ellis). Her father was a general labourer so Edward married a bit below himself!!  They got married in Heckmondwike in a church just round the corner from Hannah.  I'm fairly new to this but up until 6 months ago, none of my family knew about our Yorkshire heritage so its great to discover it.  I hope one day to take a trip there. I google mapped the roads they lived on and looked at the pictures which was great.

Don't worry about certs. Are we able to share emails here?? Wasn't sure.
Thanks for your help Kath.
June

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1700s birstall and batley
« on: Monday 02 April 12 11:45 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Kath for the wonderful information. I am applying for the marriage cert of Jeremiah junior so hopefully it'll will also confirm the connection.  I did a search in the London Gazette (link http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/all=Jeremiah+Riley+Wilkinson;sort=oldest/start=11) and it looks like Jeremiah senior fell on hard times and was declared bankrupt along with Joseph Wilkinson and Joseph Charlesworth. There seem to be some references to JW sr in the UK national archives which I going through.

If this is the same JW sr we are both connected to I guess that makes us distant cousins or something! Thank you so much for your help.
June

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: 1700s birstall and batley
« on: Sunday 01 April 12 19:13 BST (UK)  »
Found your note on Jeremiah Wilkinson in 1700s.  Can you tell me if you know if this has any connection to Jeremiah Riley Wilkinson born 1845 in Batley? I am a direct descendent of his son Edward who moved to Ireland sometime in the early part of the 1900s and I'm trying to trace the Yorkshire roots.  Many thanks

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