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Roscommon / Dunmurraghoe & Doonard Townlands - Luke Kelly
« on: Thursday 25 October 18 06:24 BST (UK)  »
I'm researching a Luke Kelly from Dunmurraghoe townland in Elphin parish in County Roscommon (I think he might be my 4th great grandfather).

Luke appears seems to have had the following children with an Ann Doyle, all baptised in Elphin parish except the last at Strokestown and with some giving a residence of Dunmurraghoe on the register:
- James (Jacobus) 1825
- Honora 1831
- Patrick 1833
- Michael 1845

Obviously there are some big gaps between recorded children, so there may have been more. One of them I think was probably my possible ancestor, the Thomas Kelly who was recorded as the bride's father at the marriage of Thomas Madden & Margaret Kelly in Kilglass parish on 7 Nov 1873. The bride's mother was noted as Mary Flanagan while the groom's mother was not recorded.

This couple (Thomas Madden & Margaret Kelly) lived at Dunmurraghoe for most of their married life and it was a townland of only 3 households so perhaps they inherited. The first time I find them at Dunmurraghoe is in 1879 (they seem to have been in Ballyfeeny & nearby before that - this place was noted as their residence in 1873 when they married and the residence was noted as Tully when they baptised a child Thomas before marriage on 11 Aug 1873.

The Luke Kelly that I am interested in is recorded at Dunmurraghoe in 1825 at the baptism of a son and apparently in 1857 in the Griffiths Valuation. I suspect he accounts for one of two death registrations in Strokestown district by that name: 1865 aged 62 or 1867 aged 80.

For the latter 1867 death record there is a will calendar saying Luke Kelly of Doonard and appointing a Michael Kelly as executor: http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/details.jsp?id=1639301026

I am wondering whether this Luke Kelly of Doonard could be the Luke Kelly of Dunmurraghoe? These townlands appear close - does anyone know if someone from Dunmurraghoe might be described as someone from Doonard in a will calendar?

Also, is there any way (paid or otherwise) of getting access to the actual wills that sit behind the will calendars?

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United States of America / Re: Michael Brennan born Ireland 1846 lived New York
« on: Friday 05 October 18 02:52 BST (UK)  »
Thank you RJ137, those records look absolutely right to me!

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United States of America / Re: Michael Brennan born Ireland 1846 lived New York
« on: Thursday 04 October 18 18:36 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much Sandra, that does seem like it could well be them despite the different birthplaces for the children - the children's names and ages fit perfectly :)

I'm going to have a look at Connecticut naturalisations to see if I can find one for Michael Brennan around 1875.

Many thanks again.

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United States of America / Michael Brennan born Ireland 1846 lived New York
« on: Thursday 04 October 18 15:42 BST (UK)  »
I am not particularly familiar with US records and am trying to establish the origins of a Michael Brennan who appears in the 1900 US Census as follows:

Michael Brennan, born Jan 1846 Ireland, parents born Ireland, married 28 years, immigration 1862, naturalization 1875, residence Manhattan, New York, occupation contractor.

Michael's wife in the 1900 census is recorded as Mary. One of their sons, James Brennan, gave the name Mary Goff as his mother's name when he married Genevieve Snyder in 1904 in Manhattan.

I am interested in Michael Brennan as a few of my AncestryDNA matches have trees that lead to him. I believe from looking at the matches I share with these matches that my common ancestor may have been from around Strokestown in County Roscommon, Ireland (so perhaps Michael was?).

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London and Middlesex / Re: 1841 Census Lookup - William Granger of Hackney
« on: Sunday 01 July 18 07:00 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for those leads Kay, they sound promising and I will investigate :)

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London and Middlesex / 1841 Census Lookup - William Granger of Hackney
« on: Sunday 01 July 18 05:34 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to research a William Granger, origins and fate unknown, who married Eliza Hornage at Islington St John, Clerkenwell, on 2 Aug 1836 (both of this parish, witnesses Thomas Hornadge & Mrs Briscoe).

William & Eliza had two children:

Thomas Granger baptised 7 Mar 1838 Shoreditch St Leonard (father's abode Macclesfield Place, brewer's servant).

William Granger baptised 7 Jun 1840 Shoreditch St Leonard (father's abode Pleasant Row, servant).

By the time of the 1851 census William has disappeared and the rest of the family appear as follows at Newmarket Road, Brown's Yard, Cambridge St Andrew the Less, Cambridgeshire, as follows:

James Butler 39 head married labourer born Quy Cambridgeshire
Eliza Butler 32 wife married born Sheffield Yorkshire
Thomas Granger son-in-law 12 born London
William Granger son-in-law 10 born London
James Butler son 5 born Chesterton Cambridgeshire
Ann Butler daughter 3 born Cambridge
John Butler son ?4 born Cambridge

Sometime in the 1850s Eliza, Thomas and William migrate to Tasmania, Australia, as free settlers (I think on the Lord Dalhousie which went as a convict ship in 1852).

In 1866 William put an advertisement in Tasmanian newspapers as follows: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/161080340

"I hereby Caution all Clergymen against marrying my Mother— maiden name, Eliza Hornage, known as Eliza Butler, widow of James Butler deceased, her lawful husband, William Granger being yet alive."

I am trying to find William Senior, Eliza, Thomas or William Junior in the 1841 census, but so far without success.

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Buckinghamshire / Re: Ridgway from Buckinghamshire, Madden from Roscommon
« on: Friday 16 March 18 19:47 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks to everyone again for the help on this thread a little while back. I now think I've probably uncovered a different Ridgway/Madden connection that fits the DNA evidence nicely (not the one Ciderdrinker mentioned) and I have a (deceased) candidate for my mum's dad. Just thought I'd note that here.

Also, I've done a bit of research on the Ridgways of Waddesdon if anyone is interested - very happy to share.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Electoral roll updating, 1930s London
« on: Tuesday 06 March 18 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Rosie & Steve, much appreciated!

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London and Middlesex / Electoral roll updating, 1930s London
« on: Saturday 03 March 18 06:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I am just wondering what the process for updating the electoral roll in London in the early 1930s was? I am looking at ordering a death registration for someone in the 1st quarter of 1933 but I see the same person on the London electoral roll of 1934 on Ancestry (for the last time that I see definitely). Is it possible I still have the right death registration to order even though the person was still on the roll until the next year?

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