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Scotland / Re: Where is this reference for?
« on: Monday 19 February 18 07:52 GMT (UK)  »
SRO RD3/5/288
Not sure if Scottish Record Office has changed name?
Yes, twice.

It renamed itself the National Archives of Scotland, then it re-renamed itself the National Records of Scotland.

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Why do you think the other two children were born in Grange? Do you know the names of the missing children?

The 1871 census says that Margaret was 48, and born in Nova Scotia. If her age is accurate she was born after 1816, so she is not one of the 4 children mentioned in 1816.

Also, have you found son George in a census? Where does it say he was born? What age was he?


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I am visiting Scotland for the first time in August 2018 and plan on visiting Bracobrae. Was there just one Church in the Parish of Grange in 1808-to 1815?
Yes, as far as I am aware.

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Is it still standing
Yes.

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and how far is it from Bracobrae?
Two or three miles, depending which part of Bracobrae you start from and how you get there.

Grange Parish Kirk http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ4851
Bracobrae http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ5052 and
http://www.geograph.org.uk/browse.php?p=768044

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Lanarkshire / Re: Kilpatrick - McMullen - Diamond
« on: Friday 16 February 18 14:03 GMT (UK)  »
No problem :)

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Lanarkshire / Re: Kilpatrick - McMullen - Diamond
« on: Friday 16 February 18 11:34 GMT (UK)  »
Yes. Any couple intending marriage had to be proclaimed three times from the pulpit in the parish kirk (though there were ways round this), and if there were no objections, the wedding could then take place.

Edinburgh, 20th February 1854. Proclaimed 19th February 1854. Patrick McMullin, Seaman on Board the Victoria Steam Ship, and Mary Ann McGill, lately residing at No 11 Greenside Street, Greenside Parish, daughter of Peter McGill, Porter, Granton, have been Three times Proclaimed, in Order to Marriage, in the Parish Church of Greenside, and no objections have been offered. Married at Leith on the 28th day of February 1854 by the Rev Archibald Macdonald Roman Catholic Clergyman.

You didn't really need a transcription of that - it is beautifully written and really easy to read :)

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Alexander Reid Aberdeen
« on: Friday 16 February 18 08:43 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know whether the names on the particular stones would have been copied from the actual gravestones, or from cemetry records ?
The index and the booklets to which it refers are of Monumental Inscriptions, in other words they are transcribed from the actual gravestones.

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Scotland / Re: Register House and SP Search Rooms
« on: Thursday 15 February 18 19:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Genetrix  can I just say that the Genealogy Centre at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow still just charges 15 per day and you can access all the same information.
That's exactly the same charge as for Register House.

I might have mentioned that you can now book your seat in Register House online. I know the Glasgow centre is very busy and you have to book there to be sure of getting a seat.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Torphichen Parish in 1730
« on: Thursday 15 February 18 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
Betty, Beattie, Bethea etc are all variants of Elizabeth.

BTW the parish is Torphichen not Torpichen.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Torphichen Parish in 1730
« on: Thursday 15 February 18 08:38 GMT (UK)  »

  If one was to record a birth in Torpichen Parish in Linlithgowshire 1730 to 1740
  bearing in mind the counties have possibly changed sum what and the parish church was not constructed till 1756 were would one take there children for a baptism. I  am thinking possibly St Cuthberts Carnoge Edinburgh sum 25 miles away. Can anybody assist with local knowledge.
Ellecat
There was no need to take a child for baptism all the way to Edinburgh.

First, there was the Preceptory church in Torphichen. A church was built there in the late 12th century, and remodelled in the 15th century. According to The Buildings of Scotland, "The choir and nave .... have disappeared almost completely, although the nave survived as the parish church until it was replaced in 1756 by the present building". So there was a kirk in the parish before 1756. (A Church of Scotland parish in the 18th century without some sort of kirk is quite unthinkable.)

There was also a Associate Presbytery kirk nearby at Craigmailling in the mid-18th century. The Associate Presbytery was one of the many splinter groups that split off from the Church of Scotland.

Second, baptisms did not necessarily take place in the kirk. It was quite common for a child to be baptised in its parents' home. I have several records from 18th century parish registers that actually state that this was the case. (The practice survived until the 20th century, and for all I know may still occur; I myself was baptised in my parents' house, not in the kirk.)

The counties, and any changes made to their boundaries, would have no bearing whatsoever on where a child was baptised. The parish was the basic and significant unit. I don't think there were any significant county boundary changes in the early 18th century, but in any case, Torphichen is adjacent to other parishes that were and are in West Lothian, and would not have been directly affected by any such change.

Even if there had not been a church in the parish of Torphichen at the time, and even if the parents had been determined to have their child baptised in a kirk building, there are plenty of kirks much closer than St Cuthberts or Canongate in Edinburgh. Bathgate and Linlithgow, for instance, are only a few miles away.

I recommend reading the Statistical Account at http://stataccscot.edina.ac.uk/static/statacc/dist/viewer/osa-vol4-Parish_record_for_Torphichen_in_the_county_of_Linlithgow_in_volume_4_of_account_1/ -this dates from the late 18th century, but does give some idea of what the parish was like then.

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